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29th Oct 2007, 07:11
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Posted By PBL

Well, I sympathise with your suggestion that a...

Well, I sympathise with your suggestion that a clearer delimitation of responsibilities might help against criminalisation, but in such a project I would worry that the systems science would be...
28th Oct 2007, 10:12
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

I was about to say that such options are being...

I was about to say that such options are being seriously considered as a consequence of the NTSB recommendation, but then I actually looked it up. NTSB A-07-37 recommends to make pilots aware of...
28th Oct 2007, 09:10
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

I think it is about right, for the reasons below....

I think it is about right, for the reasons below.



There are two main points, which are generic, but not at all imprecise.

The first is that pursuing accidents with criminal proceedings...
24th Oct 2007, 20:03
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Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

I am glad to see that the moderators are taking...

I am glad to see that the moderators are taking an interest in the thread and deleting pure rubbish. Let me say that I hope they leave it open (as opposed to the peremptory manner in which they...
9th Oct 2007, 17:56
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

ATC4US, I thank you for some informative...

ATC4US,

I thank you for some informative posts on what the current state of the investigation is. I also thank you for answering my questions directly!

I don't necessarily like what I read,...
9th Oct 2007, 06:12
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

ATC4US, has anyone attempted to show that...

ATC4US,

has anyone attempted to show that these alleged failings of the Legacy crew were causal to the accident?

PBL
8th Oct 2007, 20:24
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Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

It seems they were cleared to FL 370. What FL do...

It seems they were cleared to FL 370. What FL do you think they should have flown, given this clearance?

Please also give your justification, with reference to ICAO procedures.

PBL
6th Oct 2007, 09:30
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Newspaper article

In the International Herald Tribune:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/03/america/03brazil.php

From flightglobal.com, the WWW presence of Flight International:...
29th Sep 2007, 09:44
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

If I understand it right, I believe that the...

If I understand it right, I believe that the Brazilian parliament committee CPI - Crise do Sistema de Trafego Aereo has recently issued a report in which they hold air traffic controllers and the...
10th Sep 2007, 09:44
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

I think anybody who considers replying to a post...

I think anybody who considers replying to a post of his might do well to consider the phenomenon that all his previous posts have either disappeared or have had their content erased by him (see, for...
9th Sep 2007, 16:10
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

I believe this last one is related to the Comair...

I believe this last one is related to the Comair accident in Lexington, Kentucky.

PBL
9th Sep 2007, 10:41
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Well, I'm not sure it is. Sdruvss is crediting...

Well, I'm not sure it is. Sdruvss is crediting this person with being the source for NTSB/CENIPA reports, published ICAO documents, and articles written in The Controller (under a pseudonym, of...
5th Sep 2007, 09:37
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Very well put, mm. That is indeed what some...

Very well put, mm. That is indeed what some contributors seem to have been arguing, and this position seems to be contained in the citation from the CIP proceedings which has been unfortunately...
4th Sep 2007, 17:19
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Marcio, thanks for the news reports. Have...

Marcio,

thanks for the news reports. Have you found the original CPI reports anywhere?

Our Brazilian lawyer/lawyer spouse colleagues have apparently gone back and deleted *all* their posts,...
4th Sep 2007, 09:14
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Assuming you are half-serious:- No, because...

Assuming you are half-serious:-

No, because then we would lose some crucial information on how this situation is being handled in Brazil.

PBL
4th Sep 2007, 06:31
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Folks, I restarted (reprovoked?) this thread...

Folks,

I restarted (reprovoked?) this thread on 21 August (post #1177) after a couple weeks silence (since 7 August) and a longer silence (essentially since 21 July).

I posted on 21 August...
1st Sep 2007, 17:59
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Thanks for the clarification, pww. I was...

Thanks for the clarification, pww.

I was responding to the word "worried", and you confirm what I said. We were also discussing the flight of N600XL with a neophyte who seems to be trying to find...
1st Sep 2007, 16:39
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Looks like we are not yet over the hump. ...

Looks like we are not yet over the hump.

N600XL was cleared to FL 370 at 3:11 pm by whomever he was then talking to (Sao Joao dos Campos?). Before he was told to contact Brasilia Center, the...
1st Sep 2007, 07:48
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Sdruvss, I have explained to you the...

Sdruvss,

I have explained to you the protocols on clearances; so has ATC Watcher, and so has con-pilot. I cannot understand why you seem to have difficulty with this information.




We need...
31st Aug 2007, 20:59
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

To an airspace user, IFR-clearable levels are any...

To an airspace user, IFR-clearable levels are any levels which end in "0", so you are missing a great many.

I think I just said this, didn't I?

PBL
31st Aug 2007, 19:48
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Especially in light of the extensive discussion...

Especially in light of the extensive discussion of the disadvantages of such minimal displays after the Strasbourg/Mt. Ste-Odile accident in 1992.

PBL
31st Aug 2007, 19:41
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Sdruvss, I think we are getting somewhere...

Sdruvss,

I think we are getting somewhere with this discussion. It is important to reach agreement on known facts. It is important to know what is known, and also to know what is unknown.


...
31st Aug 2007, 06:54
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Sdruvss, The posts by ATC Watcher, marciovp...

Sdruvss,

The posts by ATC Watcher, marciovp and A310driver say a lot of what I would have said in reply. I will not repeat here points they have made; I supplement them.

It seems to me that...
30th Aug 2007, 19:34
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

Sdruvss, No problem. I'm glad we seem to...

Sdruvss,

No problem. I'm glad we seem to have sorted out our communications. We seem both to be interested at getting at the heart of this matter.

You want to discuss it in detail. OK, let's...
30th Aug 2007, 12:35
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

FL 370 was their last cleared and confirmed...

FL 370 was their last cleared and confirmed altitude before communications were lost. Check out the lost-communication procedures under IFR to see what both pilots and controllers should do in this...
28th Aug 2007, 11:27
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

This is a universal, and well-known, issue...

This is a universal, and well-known, issue wherever accidents are criminalised. It is mentioned in Sparaco's columns which I referenced; it is mentioned in the RAeS/FSF/CANSO statement on the...
27th Aug 2007, 17:37
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

There was a series of one-page columns in his...

There was a series of one-page columns in his series "A European Perspective" by Pierre Sparaco in Aviation Week in 2006 which addressed exactly this: 22.05.2006, "Investigative Errors"; 03.07.2006...
21st Aug 2007, 10:17
Replies: 1,634
Views: 675,101
Posted By PBL

This thread seems to have gotten little traffic...

This thread seems to have gotten little traffic recently. As some might be aware, we have been following public developments quite closely. My colleague Jörn Stuphorn has performed a (very)...
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