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22nd Sep 2016, 10:03
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Posted By vilas

http://www.beca.be/magazines/aero/Boeing-AERO-2014...

http://www.beca.be/magazines/aero/Boeing-AERO-2014-Q3.pdf
Although little off topic, A good article by Boeing about GA intricacies clear indications of flydubai type of accident.
22nd Sep 2016, 06:44
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Posted By vilas

stilton Exactly! That's what I meant by...

stilton
Exactly! That's what I meant by throwing the baby with bath water. It is not too much to expect a professional pilot to know how to take off, do an approach and land or go round.
21st Sep 2016, 16:30
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Posted By vilas

alf5071h I myself stated earlier that if it is...

alf5071h
I myself stated earlier that if it is one off error, happens! price of being human. I also stated that humans have no instincts in the air and flying is an acquired skill. Being human also...
21st Sep 2016, 15:27
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Posted By vilas

20 years is enough on line. And for all that...

20 years is enough on line. And for all that smartness contribute something substantial other than pot shots.In any case the pilots involved in these incidents have equally thick log books.
21st Sep 2016, 14:15
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Posted By vilas

Sure! If one rejects everything other than manual...

Sure! If one rejects everything other than manual skills solution. Or suggest procedures which throw the baby out with bath water. Include it in Briefing! what all can you brief? Learn the...
20th Sep 2016, 15:52
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Posted By vilas

I am in full agreement with 4468 on his posts...

I am in full agreement with 4468 on his posts 1695 and 1698. There are two GA procedures and they are different. You must brief the procedure for GA after touch down since. Since you practice normal...
19th Sep 2016, 14:58
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Posted By vilas

Off course you follow them in any aircraft. Using...

Off course you follow them in any aircraft. Using automation the scan remains same but it is for monitoring of automation effecting changes. During approach pilot has to keep his hand on throttles/...
19th Sep 2016, 06:07
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Posted By vilas

CONF iture Sure! I am not linking the two but...

CONF iture
Sure! I am not linking the two but indicating wrong priorities. In a bounced landing GA there is no need to do anything other than thrust and attitude. Within two seconds flaps and gear...
18th Sep 2016, 19:33
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Posted By vilas

No. He didn't know how to execute a go around...

No. He didn't know how to execute a go around after touch down. He wasn't too trusting the automation and was let down but expecting the automation to do something that it wasn't designed to do and...
18th Sep 2016, 16:27
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Posted By vilas

I tend to go with 4468. Lack of manual skill has...

I tend to go with 4468. Lack of manual skill has nothing to do with this accident which was due lack of knowledge of automation. Since absence of thrust caused the problem everybody is forgetting...
18th Sep 2016, 07:40
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Posted By vilas

I think to start with this is possible. Take...

I think to start with this is possible.
Take off emergency briefing:
" If any abnormality before V1 I will call Stop or Go, if the call is go..........."
Approach briefing:
" In case we go around...
18th Sep 2016, 06:23
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Posted By vilas

The topic is Boeing but then! From airbus...

The topic is Boeing but then!
From airbus document below:


AUTOMATION
Imagine that you have a 3rd pilot on the flight deck who flies perfectly and does exactly what you tell him to do - but...
18th Sep 2016, 06:09
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Posted By vilas

Quality training. In that first is to impart good...

Quality training. In that first is to impart good knowledge of the system. Trainee should be pointed out any traps or likely popular misunderstanding of the system especially in take off, landing GA...
17th Sep 2016, 15:27
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Posted By vilas

Blogs To give you an example in airbus you need...

Blogs
To give you an example in airbus you need to push thrust levers to TOGA. And go rounds are routinely practiced in SIM. But it has happened in flight(three incidents) some pilots didn't know...
17th Sep 2016, 15:02
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Posted By vilas

I have no problem if you want to practice but...

I have no problem if you want to practice but unless you know the system well you will never know the trap. In EK case what is there to practice if you know the system won't give you TOGA...
17th Sep 2016, 14:11
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Posted By vilas

I don't see the irony. You surely can see I...

I don't see the irony. You surely can see I quoted these examples to emphasize that humans have no instincts in air or if they do anything instinctively will be wrong. These are not the examples of...
17th Sep 2016, 07:33
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Posted By vilas

Bloggs I am all for manual skills. But manual...

Bloggs
I am all for manual skills. But manual skill and knowledge of automation are not exchangeable in modern aircraft. yes in a DC3 if you didn't know about the AP it didn't matter. Any pilot who...
17th Sep 2016, 06:51
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Posted By vilas

Bloggs If you keep using manual skills in RVSM...

Bloggs
If you keep using manual skills in RVSM and CAT3 you will lose your job.Airlines don't hire you to keep surviving from ignorance.
17th Sep 2016, 05:00
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Posted By vilas

4468 Further to the muscle memory myth I want...

4468
Further to the muscle memory myth I want to include the misuse of the word instinctual. Humans as specie have no instincts once they leave the ground. Flying is an acquired habit/skill. What...
16th Sep 2016, 11:24
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Posted By vilas

At least in airbus SOP all these situations are...

At least in airbus SOP all these situations are clearly spelt out. But if pilots are not taught to slam the thrust levers to the limit and to immediately check FMA then incidents can happen. There...
15th Sep 2016, 19:03
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Posted By vilas

tdracer I am afraid it is not so. ...

tdracer
I am afraid it is not so.


From airbus Safety First Jul 2012 magazine.


Conclusion
15th Sep 2016, 09:27
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Posted By vilas

Oakape, wiggy Nobody knows FCOM inside out nor...

Oakape, wiggy
Nobody knows FCOM inside out nor is it required. But it is not unreasonable to expect a thorough knowledge of the aircraft systems, automation and performance of take off and landing...
14th Sep 2016, 14:34
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Posted By vilas

BuzzBox When one flies automated FBW aircrafts...

BuzzBox
When one flies automated FBW aircrafts isn't it necessary to know the limitations of automation? I think if the pilot knew that throttles will not advance by triggering the GA button then he...
14th Sep 2016, 08:01
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Posted By vilas

Centaurus 4468 flies for company that has many...

Centaurus
4468 flies for company that has many own procedures that even manufacturer will frown. Any one who doesn't work there is not likely to find much merit in them and the argument will go on...
14th Sep 2016, 07:21
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Posted By vilas

c.j.shrimpton TOGA is not only a FD mode but...

c.j.shrimpton
TOGA is not only a FD mode but also can refer to a thrust setting FMA would indicate that. The actions you mention is the way to get that thrust. Even if FDs are NA you may still call...
13th Sep 2016, 18:58
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Posted By vilas

tdracer Your post is misleading. It is possible...

tdracer
Your post is misleading. It is possible off course to abort landing after thrust reverser deployment provided you have sufficient runway and both reverser stow properly. But it is dangerous...
13th Sep 2016, 17:25
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Posted By vilas

How come airbus doesn't agree with that? After...

How come airbus doesn't agree with that? After all airbus doesn't manufacture engines. reverse is full stop for airbus.
13th Sep 2016, 17:15
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Posted By vilas

It is reasonably clear that Boeing recommended go...

It is reasonably clear that Boeing recommended go around procedure after touch down was not followed where pilot needs to apply TOGA manually and initiate climb without FDs. why wasn't it done? Man,...
13th Sep 2016, 14:46
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Posted By vilas

How will you judge whether you will overfly the...

How will you judge whether you will overfly the vehicle or hit it harder? What happens if one reverser doesn't stow?
11th Sep 2016, 04:19
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Posted By vilas

The banjo I am in agreement with you. This is...

The banjo
I am in agreement with you. This is very much true on any aircraft. You rotate enough to avoid nose wheel contact. Leave everything as it is. Once climbing and safely away from ground...
25th Aug 2016, 08:35
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Posted By vilas

atpcliff I would like a discussion between you...

atpcliff
I would like a discussion between you and M. Mouse because as TRE on 777 and 787 he feels it is categorically stated by Boeing. After SFO accident even FAA asked Boeing to have a look at...
24th Aug 2016, 06:51
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Posted By vilas

framer I am afraid the primary method has to be...

framer
I am afraid the primary method has to be automation backed up by manual skill. A pilot cannot keep switching off automation at the drop of a hat because he has insufficient knowledge of...
23rd Aug 2016, 12:13
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Posted By vilas

BugSmasher1960 Even to use a microwave or...

BugSmasher1960
Even to use a microwave or mobile phone to its full capability requires the user to study the user manual and understand the system. Most people use these devices for limited...
22nd Aug 2016, 16:35
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Posted By vilas

BugSmasher1960 and Rat I somehow get the...

BugSmasher1960 and Rat
I somehow get the feeling that both of you are not in touch with contemporary situation in aviation otherwise you would not be lamenting the demise of the thinking pilot....
22nd Aug 2016, 08:45
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Posted By vilas

Prima facie it appears that although not...

Prima facie it appears that although not catastrophic but there was a wind shift, initially head wind shear then changing to tail wind. The head WS part caused excess energy situation leading to IAS...
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