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10th Jan 2018, 02:37
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Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

But the system has changed. It changed 28 years...

But the system has changed. It changed 28 years ago, starting with AMATS. The system now is nothing like the old FS/ATC OCTA/CTA divide.
It could be argued that the MDX scenario is much less likely...
9th Jan 2018, 11:06
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

But someone didn't and it did. So let it go....

But someone didn't and it did. So let it go. Fight this battle using logic and reason. You haven't been so far.
9th Jan 2018, 10:25
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Even though that is an impossibility because...

Even though that is an impossibility because AMATS didn't come in for another 10 years after the event, and was probably not even a twinkle in your eye yet, if the changes had been in place, the...
9th Jan 2018, 10:07
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

So you are saying he should have been in...

So you are saying he should have been in controlled airspace? That was the only other option in 1981.
9th Jan 2018, 09:45
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

What was the correct track and how would ATC know...

What was the correct track and how would ATC know it?
9th Jan 2018, 06:47
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Whilst I am reticent to once again flog this dead...

Whilst I am reticent to once again flog this dead horse, how exactly 37 years ago was this going to change. The only way the pilot would have been talking to ATC as a routine part of his flight was...
7th Jan 2018, 08:39
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

In Arnhem Land back in the day, the VFR charters...

In Arnhem Land back in the day, the VFR charters were FULLSAR and multiple short hops. The pilot would call taxiing with his details for that particular hop, as he usually didn't know what that job...
7th Jan 2018, 01:09
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

And you were surprised by this? I am constantly...

And you were surprised by this? I am constantly astounded by how little you as a self-professed expert on why the system was so bad actually know about it.
You bag it and slag it, but have so little...
6th Jan 2018, 23:20
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

There is a presumption that a passenger who...

There is a presumption that a passenger who undertakes a charter flight is accepting of a greater degree of risk than one who simply buys an airline ticket. This is reflected in the difference...
6th Jan 2018, 20:31
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

I can't believe you just said that. So by...

I can't believe you just said that.

So by that, you mean "most pilots"?
Perhaps you should take account of the opinions of "most pilots" rather than just the opinion of one?

Where are the...
6th Jan 2018, 20:21
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

That's pretty much the rationale behind every Air...

That's pretty much the rationale behind every Air traffic System in the world.
6th Jan 2018, 11:06
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

To be more correct, it was more "mutually...

To be more correct, it was more "mutually arranged separation via the use of whatever means was most effective, including radio". It wasn't just between VFR and RPT either. It was any IFR to any...
6th Jan 2018, 03:17
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

No I simply rebutted your earlier assertion that...

No I simply rebutted your earlier assertion that all aircraft above 5000' received a directed traffic info service. I did not mention VFR (even though that is how it worked ie they didn't get one.)
...
6th Jan 2018, 01:36
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Yes you did. Did ICAO have radio requirements...

Yes you did. Did ICAO have radio requirements back in the 80's? I'd reckon most countries had their own particular airspace and operating requirements 35 years ago.



Yes, you did. Don't you...
5th Jan 2018, 10:54
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

You're looking at the wrong one then: ...

You're looking at the wrong one then:

https://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21703477-americas-antiquated-air-traffic-control-system-hindering-safety-sky-navigating
5th Jan 2018, 10:35
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Because they obviously were a collision hazard,...

Because they obviously were a collision hazard, just as two IFRs still are and two VFRs still are under the hemispherical rule. It was mitigated by the VFRs practicing "see and avoid" (and the IFRs...
5th Jan 2018, 07:43
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

No they weren't.

No they weren't.
4th Jan 2018, 22:36
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Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Listening to the broadasts on area, vs the number...

Listening to the broadasts on area, vs the number of strips on my board?
4th Jan 2018, 11:14
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Only tbe IFRs got traffic, so it didn't matter...

Only tbe IFRs got traffic, so it didn't matter what flight rules the traffic was, it was still traffic.
Most VFR flew below 5000. So the choice was there for the majority of VFR pilots. Most didn't...
4th Jan 2018, 07:01
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

You forget the DTI was only to IFR (which still...

You forget the DTI was only to IFR (which still mostly happens now anyway), and frequency change instructions were only given to VFR who chose to operate full reporting. It wasn't the claustrophobic...
4th Jan 2018, 06:44
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Then you shouldn't be doing this then

Then you shouldn't be doing this then
3rd Jan 2018, 10:53
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

You are flying a multi-million dollar twin...

You are flying a multi-million dollar twin engined helicopter, and you say changing radio frequencies is too complex?
3rd Jan 2018, 04:02
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

If that is the end game result of changing a...

If that is the end game result of changing a countries airspace sytem, then I think everyone else has been dudded.
3rd Jan 2018, 03:58
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

But who determines the result required? Who...

But who determines the result required? Who determines if a result is even required? Is there a majority push for a change? What if a majority wanted a result that wasn't required? Is it only a...
2nd Jan 2018, 23:48
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

No one has pure ICAO airspace. The US is...

No one has pure ICAO airspace. The US is different to Canada which is different to the UK which is different to ours which is different to the US etc etc. Every country has implemented variations of...
2nd Jan 2018, 02:09
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

But has it really done any damage? If so, to what...

But has it really done any damage? If so, to what extent? What is the actual dollar value of the damage that has been meaningfully and willfully imposed on the industry?
1st Jan 2018, 09:27
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

I find it incongruous that with the all the...

I find it incongruous that with the all the advances in technology over the decades, the demand to seemingly go backwards and simply look out the window is seen as desirable.
1st Jan 2018, 09:06
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Leadie, to all intents and purposed it is, if you...

Leadie, to all intents and purposed it is, if you are outside any other classification of airspace.
**Whispers** Just not allowed to call it "area" as that doesn't fit the narrative.
31st Dec 2017, 10:45
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

I said I could hear them. I didn't say I...

I said I could hear them. I didn't say I monitored them. Why would I be monitoring them? I didn't care what they were doing.
31st Dec 2017, 08:24
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

But it does work doesn't it, so the job is not...

But it does work doesn't it, so the job is not impossible?
31st Dec 2017, 05:44
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

Perhaps the frequency boundaries were put back on...

Perhaps the frequency boundaries were put back on charts because ATC provide a traffic service to IFR in G on Area, much like FS did back in the day, and so it behoves the IFR and the traffic to be...
27th Dec 2017, 11:25
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

And therein lies the rub. We have Australian G....

And therein lies the rub. We have Australian G. But that's ok, because we can take some overseas things and add the things we do better, like providing a DTI to IFRs in G where we can. That has to be...
26th Dec 2017, 23:49
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

So we have a better safer system because we...

So we have a better safer system because we provide a DTI to IFR in G. But to do that, the aircraft have to be on an ATC frequency. This makes our "area" also an ATC frequency. Canada don't do this,...
26th Dec 2017, 21:00
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

How does establishing a couple of Unicoms do...

How does establishing a couple of Unicoms do that?


What is that? I have never read of a thing you have considered done better here than anywhere else.
26th Dec 2017, 08:59
Replies: 731
Views: 99,540
Posted By Traffic_Is_Er_Was

What he did do was a lot of things that got him...

What he did do was a lot of things that got him and his passengers killed. It happened once and didn't happen again. But we had to change the whole airspace system anyway.
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