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garpal gumnut 17th Mar 2017 05:56

Propellor falls off Rex Saab 340 in NSW Australia
 
Just to hand

Rex aircraft propeller fell off mid flight: Plane forced to land at Sydney airport

garpal gumnut 17th Mar 2017 07:06

I do hope this is not fake news. Nobody seems to have replied and it happened some hours ago.

ACMS 17th Mar 2017 07:11

Thread running here

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...dent-yssy.html

garpal gumnut 17th Mar 2017 07:14

No worries, thanks. It's not everyday an aircraft lands sans half a brassiere.

DaveReidUK 17th Mar 2017 07:21


Originally Posted by garpal gumnut (Post 9709032)
I do hope this is not fake news. Nobody seems to have replied and it happened some hours ago.

Did you try clicking on the link in the first post ?

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4...5bb328e2a85d29

Nobody is that good with Photoshop.

garpal gumnut 17th Mar 2017 09:02

It is good to see that major Australian Aviation incidents can be kept on an Australian only forum.

We've been doing it our own way with good results since WW2, so why involve others.

boguing 17th Mar 2017 09:41

Given the dynamics, 'Saab fall off prop' shurely?

garpal gumnut 17th Mar 2017 09:55

I'm probably going to get in to strife with the moderators, but many Australians, Canadians and people in Asia and South America are concerned about this incident on a Saab 340. It is not just an Australian issue.

More people travel domestically than intercontinental.

A propeller shearing off a domestic flight should be discussed as minutely as a failure of an intercontinental Airbus incident.

This incident is buried in pprune.org

unworry 17th Mar 2017 10:46

Three pans in play over ten minutes.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ys...2017-0030Z.mp3

Initial report from 968, casual as you like, starts around 9:40 mark

Basil 17th Mar 2017 11:01

Much more serious than first reported.
The Evening Standard says:

Passenger plane makes emergency landing after two of its propellers fall off
:}

Anyway, less drag on the dead side.

lomapaseo 17th Mar 2017 14:38

amazingly clean break away, unlike a prop blade failure.

barit1 17th Mar 2017 16:21

Appears to be either a prop shaft break (prop gearbox output shaft), or even failed big retaining nut on the aft side of the "bull" gear internal to the gearbox. There was another lost prop incident in the mid-80s over Lake Erie, US carrier Comair IIRC.

TL1R 18th Mar 2017 11:14

Not first event
 
Previous issue with CT7 gearbox output shaft caused at least 1 starboard propeller departure in flight. Our red on an American Eagle operated Saab 340 in 1991, unlikely to be the identical issue how er?

TL1R 18th Mar 2017 11:19

Correction
 
Apologies operated by Comair departed propeller landed in Lake Erie and disappeared. Fleet inspection was in place at that time.

Pugilistic Animus 20th Mar 2017 05:11

At least the plane was in a low drag condition for the OEI engine.

lomapaseo 20th Mar 2017 14:04

More info today

Sydney airline grounds 5 planes after propeller drops off | Miami Herald

I read in one article that the pilot was already taking action on the engine when he saw the prop depart up and over the wing away from the fuselage.

That observation would match a clean release of the prop while still under power.

With a left hand engine it might have been different

Rengineer 20th Mar 2017 15:12

From an engineer's point of view this is one of the most disturbing aviation news this year. Here we have a commercial airline in an industrial country, operating a quite common type, following (I suppose) well-audited rules, all the paperwork (supposedly) in order, and we have a major structural failure which had a 50% chance of really messing up the aircraft. Any human error, any aggravating circumstances must have occurred on ground, where they were supposed to be identified and corrected by the supposedly well-audited quality control system. It's just a combination of luck and crew skill the passengers and crew needed no more than counseling (if they even really needed that).


So where's the original problem and what can we learn from the incident?

megan 20th Mar 2017 16:35


So where's the original problem and what can we learn from the incident
The report will tell. Should not be too difficult to determine forensically. Fatigue initiated by corrosion pit, tooling mark, could be anything.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/29cxwkg.jpg

p.j.m 21st Mar 2017 05:27

Propeller found

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...ml#post9713380

WeeWinkyWilly 21st Mar 2017 10:28

swarf =chip detector light/ tooth = sun/planetary disrupt
 
Always best to get a chip-detector light first from the swarf of a lube fail or misalignment. Not good when the sun/planetary enmesh leads to a tooth detaching. That leads to the prop-torque inducing a prop separation. But always good when it detaches cleanly (up, up and away) and doesn't penetrate the fuselage.....


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