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Just watched this on the BBC website. That’s got to have hurt....
Plane tries to land in Austria storm... takes off again - BBC News
Plane tries to land in Austria storm... takes off again - BBC News
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Looks gravely concerning - would need the Austrian Authorities to investigate it. Unlike the Dutch authorities: they didn't investigate the decision making, training, ATC and planning after Transavia HV5068 Got to understand the near misses to improve Flight Safety
Avenger is correct, a well flown go around from a sudden gust. Dogma seems to think a go around needs investigating by aviation authorities, a sure way to put pilots off flying one.
Sadly every go around is now a potential news item in the age of smart phones and YouTube.
Sadly every go around is now a potential news item in the age of smart phones and YouTube.
Well Executed? Text Book?
What are you lot smoking?
What are you lot smoking?
Not idea about the video, wasn't there haven't seen the FDR trace or even read a METAR...but:
Yup...I'm not sure how much longer airlines are going to bother running expensive flight parameter montoring systems, etc that look for events that might need a follow up by "the office" .....
Given the mania for outsourcing give it another decade and you'll no longer get a call from management or the union if you chuck an approach away in interesting circumstances or start flap retraction at 999' feet on departure, you'll get a call from a local spotter or a PM from a moderator to ask about your latest attempt at doing the day job.....
Sadly every go around is now a potential news item in the age of smart phones and YouTube.
Given the mania for outsourcing give it another decade and you'll no longer get a call from management or the union if you chuck an approach away in interesting circumstances or start flap retraction at 999' feet on departure, you'll get a call from a local spotter or a PM from a moderator to ask about your latest attempt at doing the day job.....
I could scarcely believe it when, in civil aviation, we were required to file go-around reports. I know the 'reasons' which were trotted out but I believe the requirement to be counter safety.
PIO>???
do you think there is PIO on app??
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
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There appears to be no recognition here of one very important professional aspect.....
There comes a time where the reported weather is so bad that attempting an approach carries more risk than a prudent decision to divert early. That's why we have crosswind and RVR limits.... not so you can push the boundaries with macho abandon, but so you leave yourself a comfortable margin away from them.
So perhaps it would be better to ask.... 'Was good judgement exercised here?'
There comes a time where the reported weather is so bad that attempting an approach carries more risk than a prudent decision to divert early. That's why we have crosswind and RVR limits.... not so you can push the boundaries with macho abandon, but so you leave yourself a comfortable margin away from them.
So perhaps it would be better to ask.... 'Was good judgement exercised here?'
some a/c made it in, some diverted so the videoer says (same as Funchal or GIB on a windy bad day)
are you saying all pilots that make an APP are macho or foolhardy or do not exercise good judgement on such windy days?
I think its fine to sit back on our laptops and sage but on a daily basis airports operate in conditions like this - if the limits were being exceeded then I doubt earlier APP's and landings would have occurred
are you saying all pilots that make an APP are macho or foolhardy or do not exercise good judgement on such windy days?
I think its fine to sit back on our laptops and sage but on a daily basis airports operate in conditions like this - if the limits were being exceeded then I doubt earlier APP's and landings would have occurred
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do you think there is PIO on app??
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
From the exterior video it was hard to tell if any of the wing drop was caused by the pilot. Interior video shows that it was all from nature and not pilot induced.
Wing flexing, and cabin interior creaking, shows that it's a fairly rough arrival.
do you think there is PIO on app??
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
this is from the inside (cabin video) the wx looks wild to me - PF did bloody well
https://youtu.be/FUBtvy3Xssc
From the exterior video it was hard to tell if any of the wing drop was caused by the pilot. Interior video shows that it was all from nature and not pilot induced.
Nice job.
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Firesyok well said. Sometimes it gets rough. & often just as rough at your diversion.
Too many people think they are better pilots than real pilots. As for real pilots degrading real pilots. I hope one day you will be put in the same position. Take as read it will happen if you fly for long enough.
Too many people think they are better pilots than real pilots. As for real pilots degrading real pilots. I hope one day you will be put in the same position. Take as read it will happen if you fly for long enough.