13.10.17 UT588 KRR-VKO

[Kulverstukas]

Performing GA:

bank 96 deg
pitch 45 deg
IAS 60 kts
stick shacker

[fox niner]

Ehh...holy *£{$}|!§>&€%*%.

Thanks Kulverstukas for that. You always seem to have access to really really interesting occurrences coming out of Mother Russia. Another 737 incident to be followed carefully...

[Kulverstukas]

Info from FDR:

Pitch 45, right bank up to +33, then left to -34.8, pitch reduced to 30 speed dropped to 60 KIAS, plane goes into right banking up to +96(right wing stalling), pitch reduced to -14 (nosedive), banking left to -45, plane came out off stalling, speed rises to 150 KIAS, banking to 0, pitch up and plane begin to climb.
Height loss was about 300 m.

[ManaAdaSystem]

Only 300 m loss of altitude after a stall from 60 kts speed?
Is this FR24 info only, or from other sources?

[Kulverstukas]

Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem

Is this FR24 info only, or from other sources?

Figures are from inside source. Quite similar to tatarstan at KZN and FlyDubai at ROV minus weather

[Less Hair]

Must be the fastest 737 ever.

[ManaAdaSystem]

I accept your information, but I thought I would be impossible to save a 737 in 1000 ft from an upset like that.
What does the graph say? Did he land right after that exercise?

[bloom]

Good pilots is all it takes!

[ManaAdaSystem]

Good pilots would not have found themselves in a situation like that in the first place.

[RVF750]

One good pilot, the other possibly getting into that situation. Until more comes out, it's hard to speculate.

[Kulverstukas]

Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem

I accept your information, but I thought I would be impossible to save a 737 in 1000 ft from an upset like that.

I think it's integral height loss, take in account that she was on TOGA climbing at the beginning of incident.

Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem

Did he land right after that exercise?

Yes and even paxes thanked pilots afterwards in social media

[ManaAdaSystem]

Originally Posted by RVF750

One good pilot, the other possibly getting into that situation. Until more comes out, it's hard to speculate.

Speculate is what we do here.
With both pilots in the loop, this will not happen.

[Jet Jockey A4]

Scary... Must have been a heck of a ride for the passengers.

[Kulverstukas]

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=200545

[FLEXJET]

I heard that:

CATII could not be performed as the FO was very new.
Captain was busy with the change of RWY.
PF set IAS 110 instead of HDG 110.

[RAT 5]

Ouch. That might be the case; been there done that and/or vice versa, the effect was instantly noticeable as an error and immediately corrected. If the data in the opening post is correct that would suggest the error was left in affect for far too long, even for a newbie. I hope there is more to this than that. Mind you, in this day and age of teaching (did I say teaching, sorry, instructing), when newbies make an error via the automatics they often are startled, wonder what/why and then try to correct it via the automatics which often can take too long. if it is a power/pitch couple problem then it's not the first or last.

[underfire]

wake encounter?

Edit: Wasnt there an elevator jam issue with the 737's (not sure about 500's)

[standbykid]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Must be the fastest 737 ever.

650 knots at 2000ft. Nice.

[Herod]

Underfire.
It was a rudder hard-over issue, and has hopefully been solved with a couple of mods and a change in procedures.

[slip and turn]

Originally Posted by Kulverstukas

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=200545

"Airplane damage: None" ... Ehm ... well not so's you'd notice by kicking any tires!