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Old 4th Aug 2017, 17:33
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...........I've known of at least 3 occasions where the nose gear pin was left in. How? Because the techie had his own pin, he was then distracted, and there were 3 nice shiny pins still in the flight deck. Horrible rainy night so I guess the crew walk round was swift.
Yeah, this is why I have never quite understood the point of checking if there are pins on the flight deck. The Engs or tug crew could have used other pins.

A better way to be certain is to actually look at the points on each gear where the pins/sleeves go and make sure they are clear.

We did a gear-down ferry about 5 years ago in an A330 at FL250 and 250Kts. I put ear plugs in and my headset over them and turned the volume up. Worked OK, (although some folk were a bit concerned about us flying like that right over New York, post 9/11).
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 14:34
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Old boss relates a tale of climbing out of a 'major' in a 146 - notices something's not quite right with the performance and in general, the aircraft. After minutes scratching his head he turns to the PM and says - "radio xxx, tell them we'd like to return.". PM says, "certainly Sir, would you like me to do that before or after you tell me to raise the gear?"
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 14:43
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The biggest mistake, forgetful moment, I see in the sim with cadets is forgetting to raise the gear either on a GA, or an engine failure, or turbulent X-wind. PF is fixated on flying and PM is fixated on what has gone wrong or not letting PF spear in. Problem is that all that drag makes whatever problem there is much worse.
I'm not suggesting there was such a scenario here, but it is so easy for attention to be diverted at a critical moment and forget to return to the normal sequence. Cadets being side-tracked, yes; well experienced line crews much less likely.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 15:21
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Flown a few 320's with gear down for operational (going to be scrapped) reasons. Range with max fuel is approx 750nm speed limited to less than 230kt
Wonder what thought process went on on the Indians flight?
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