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Old 13th Jun 2017, 07:51
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I grew up in the 70's in a Greater London suburb, at the height of IRA activities, then working in a supermarket we regularly received bomb threats, we had to take each threat seriously even though we knew that is was a shoplifting scam, that in the mass exodus through the doors shoplifters were exiting with goods unpaid for.

Several years later my then airline employer went thru a spate of bomb threats, somebody who had a grudge against the airline or our MD in particular, each threat was left to the decision of the commander and eventually the commanders ignored the threats not just receiving the praise and gratitude of our MD but the threats ultimately stopped once they realised they were no longer being taken seriously.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 08:06
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It seems like it's only a problem if you're "Asian looking" (which in the UK implies South Asian) or Middle Eastern. Can't recall an incident where passengers of Caucasian appearance where reported by fellow passengers for alleged terrorism.
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My wife is Asian ... I could be 'one of them'!
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 09:11
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Maybe passengers should be made aware that all their talks during air travel, including bomb jokes at checkpoints, might be overheard by third parties, reported and taken as security offence?

I agree that some real terrorist might not act this way but if this is enough to get the general public so concerned why not have a plan for it? One way or the other they disturb the system of air travel by creating those false security alarms.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 09:56
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I haven't read any suggestion that these guys were joking about bombs, from what I've read they were merely having a harmless discussion and, where I come from, to eavesdrop on another's discussion is considered rude.
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These days official warnings are handed out by the US Department of State and then you have the average joe trying to be cautious and again they are wrong. I'd say we need to be more constructive give guidelines support etc. and not blame people not in the know for reporting stuff they consider mysterious. Sure it's hysteria but we need to handle it.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 15:58
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As far as "bomb jokes at checkpoints" go, the reason you'll get pulled out and held for "special treatment" is not that you might be a terrorist. It's because the security personnel perceives bomb jokes as a lack of respect, and they'll make sure you'll be missing your flight just so you know who's the boss next time.

Anyway, the adjective "explosive" or the verb "to explode", just to take an example, are perfectly legit in conversation, probably even more so when one's talking shop.
Just to make a point: every programmer in the world knows and uses the C function explode(separator, string,[limit]) and you'll find many instances of it in the source code that makes this very forum work - or in the code that flies your plane, for that matter. Should a programmer refrain from reviewing code during a flight on the off chance that some idiot glances at their laptop screen and goes ballistic?

Another few points:
Real terrorist do not ever travel as a group or book their tickets together, and do not ever talk shop when they can be overheard. Not even the terrorist in "24" are that stupid.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 19:09
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Real terrorist do not ever travel as a group
Didn't they on 9/11?
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 19:25
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No, they did not.
On AA11 (for example) the five hijackers booked their tickets separately and their seats were on three different rows in business and first class. Only two of the five were assigned adjacent seats but this might well have been by chance.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 19:38
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Then how about the Ethiopian Airlines 961 hijack?
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 19:54
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The hijackers of Ethiopian 961 hardly knew what they were doing. They were untrained and out of their heads. The fact that they managed to hijack the plane is only due to the fact that a hijack was completely unexpected in that time/place/context.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 19:57
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Am I the only one who thinks they may have done this on purpose for fun and to cause disruption?
After all we have seen it on other flights (I think that there is even video) where a group of men with a 'certain' appearance deliberately made themselves look suspicious just to upset the other passengers.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 20:10
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deliberately made themselves look suspicious
You mean, they weren't knee walking drunk and obnoxiously loud like a proper British passenger oughta be?
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