PIA beats Ryan Air
PIA beats Ryan Air
Years ago, Ryan Air ran a marketing campaign that it was going to allow standing passengers in the aisles, with straps to hold, like bus passengers. Obviously this idea never got off the ground, for equally obvious reasons.
PIA seem to have beaten them to it though, reports of a PIA flight on 20th of Jan to Medina with 7 extra pax, standing in the aisles, unseated, on hand written tickets ...
PIA seem to have beaten them to it though, reports of a PIA flight on 20th of Jan to Medina with 7 extra pax, standing in the aisles, unseated, on hand written tickets ...
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Possibly... But many years ago a close friend of mine was landing in Luanda and she with half a dozen other passengers stood by the front door during landing. The cabin crew recommended that they should run for their connecting flight and this would give them a head start. But she need not have worried, the connecting flight was running on African time. Another colleague was flying for an A8 national airline and was rather concerned with his poor climb performance. A retrospective calculation indicated he was rather overweight. Part of the problem were the 118 people on a 101 seater aircraft. 15 year old children were checked in as infants. But to be honest, this thing is to be expected in any country where corruption is rife. God the poor EU when they let Albania in.
Many moons ago I watched a TV show like "candid camera" on a German TV Channel.
They had a B737 for maintenance at Hamburg, all seats removed. So the TV team installed a pair of handrails at the ceiling of the 737.
At the gate they offered a fare reduction of DM 50.- to fly almost two hrs to Mallorca, no seats, standing up in the cabin.
Only three of about 140 pax refused.
All others got on board, laughing.
They had a B737 for maintenance at Hamburg, all seats removed. So the TV team installed a pair of handrails at the ceiling of the 737.
At the gate they offered a fare reduction of DM 50.- to fly almost two hrs to Mallorca, no seats, standing up in the cabin.
Only three of about 140 pax refused.
All others got on board, laughing.
Dunno what all the hoopla is about...Qantas was doing that kind of stuff back in the 70's!
Apparently on a -200 that had a max capacity of something like 420 people!
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In 1974 Qantas established a then world record for carrying the most passengers when it evacuated 673 people on a 747 flight from Darwin after the city was devastated by Cyclone Tracy.
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In a community where people hang on to the outside of buses when there is no more room inside, or on the roofs of trains, or four to a bicycle, travel seatless in an aircraft is probably one of the safer forms of transport.
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In 1974 Qantas established a then world record for carrying the most passengers when it evacuated 673 people on a 747 flight from Darwin after the city was devastated by Cyclone Tracy.
PS I once rode (1979)) an All Nippon 747SR on a domestic intercity run with 500 paying pax plus babes-in-arms.
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In 1990 I was pax on an Aeroflot flight ARN-RIX with three passengers more than seats.
Back in those days.... Swedish security gave up on telling them. One sat in the cockpit and two squeezed in seats with kids.
Just sometimes, you do not hear about it. See no evil, hear no evil...
Back in those days.... Swedish security gave up on telling them. One sat in the cockpit and two squeezed in seats with kids.
Just sometimes, you do not hear about it. See no evil, hear no evil...
Happened to me on a couple of domestic flights in China. Someone had put toilets where our seat were supposed to be on B737s.
CC unable to solve before airborne.
Much sucking of teeth and blushing of face.
CC unable to solve before airborne.
Much sucking of teeth and blushing of face.
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PIA airliner flies sector with seven standing passengers.
I knew their food was supposed to be pretty bad, but ...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-aisles-report
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-aisles-report
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Pah!!
Any haj flight before about 1995 (people brewing up on a spirit stove half way to Mecca), anything involving Bouraq in Indonesia (goats) and the all out lifetime winners were Air Zaire who filled the isles on a regular basis week in, week out..............
Any haj flight before about 1995 (people brewing up on a spirit stove half way to Mecca), anything involving Bouraq in Indonesia (goats) and the all out lifetime winners were Air Zaire who filled the isles on a regular basis week in, week out..............
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PAX FEEDING THEMSELVES
I recall back in the 70's a cabin crew member walking the aisle at night, feeling a warmth as she passed one point. Investigating, she did indeed find pax preparing their own food. I suppose our veg curries, catered by "Intercontinental Food Poisoning" out of STN were not up to much !
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well.... not just in Asia - it was a British crew that left the front door open on the "Herald of Free Enterprise..." IIRC
I have a bit of sympathy with carrying goats - after all it's the only way to get around - and many goats are a damn sight better behaved than a lot of LCO passengers to/from the UK
I have a bit of sympathy with carrying goats - after all it's the only way to get around - and many goats are a damn sight better behaved than a lot of LCO passengers to/from the UK
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Regardless of what the newspaper says, it wasn't a cooking stove that caused the demise of SV163. The fire began in the cargo space and the CAA, among others, came to the conclusion it was due to a tiny hydraulic leak, causing a very spray of hydraulic fluid to spray onto the "S" bend in the centre engine exhaust trunking. I know because I was there and marginally involved in the aftermath. (I am sure I wrote about this elsewhere on here).
Having said that, I was working one night on Navaids at Taif (Saudi Arabia) and was having a fag and a cup of tea with the duty controller when a Saudia B707 went down in the mountains not too far north of us. This was caused by a primus stove starting a fire which got out of hand. The passengers all rushed forward, presumably hoping to get into the flightdeck, upsetting the aircraft C of G and resulting in a nosedive into the ground.
HH: How abut that for a coincidence! Having heard part of a BBC play yesterday about that disaster, I spent a couple of hours reading the court of inquiry report. It seems this was a common occurrence with that company's vessels. Not only was it a British crew that caused the disaster, it was also a British company that pooh poohed the concerns of all of their Captains when they had demanded door open/closed indicators for the bow doors. These ferries had "clam shell" type doors which opened horizontally and there were invisible to the bridge (unlike the traditional vertical raising doors which can be seen from the bridge when open. Add to that the fact that the Captains had no way of knowing the vessel's draught or even the actual number of passengers carried on each trip, sometimes sailing with more than 1,200 passengers when they were licensed for 630! A horrible read!
Having said that, I was working one night on Navaids at Taif (Saudi Arabia) and was having a fag and a cup of tea with the duty controller when a Saudia B707 went down in the mountains not too far north of us. This was caused by a primus stove starting a fire which got out of hand. The passengers all rushed forward, presumably hoping to get into the flightdeck, upsetting the aircraft C of G and resulting in a nosedive into the ground.
HH: How abut that for a coincidence! Having heard part of a BBC play yesterday about that disaster, I spent a couple of hours reading the court of inquiry report. It seems this was a common occurrence with that company's vessels. Not only was it a British crew that caused the disaster, it was also a British company that pooh poohed the concerns of all of their Captains when they had demanded door open/closed indicators for the bow doors. These ferries had "clam shell" type doors which opened horizontally and there were invisible to the bridge (unlike the traditional vertical raising doors which can be seen from the bridge when open. Add to that the fact that the Captains had no way of knowing the vessel's draught or even the actual number of passengers carried on each trip, sometimes sailing with more than 1,200 passengers when they were licensed for 630! A horrible read!
