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Old 8th Oct 2016, 04:14
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It's psychosomatic, after a deep phycological analysis we will probably learn that she was once a passenger on a Ryanair flight. The thought of dying so cheaply probably triggered it.
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 20:06
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I agree. Pathetic.
What Airport, what taxiway, what RWY and what weather conditions.. And no, I'm not a lawyer or an ambulance chaser..
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 21:16
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She should be prosecuted for wasting the Court's time.

If you're on an airport you should expect aeroplanes, does she ignore all traffic on the road just because she has a flashing light and a bell operating ? Sure she has the right of way, but ..... "She was right, dead right, as she drove along, but she'd be less dead if she'd been more wrong" ( Anon. )
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 16:40
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Some people haven't read the report. She appears to have been cleared to cross the runway by ATC in error, as the Ryanair a/c was clearly on it's t/off roll. They maybe thought she was so far away from the intersection that the a/c would have been well past by the time she got there. It's Dublin! I have many interesting memories of flying there in the past. What always tickled me was when the Controller cleared you for take off, then added "Good luck!"
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 16:54
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It's not just Dublin - it's Ireland
Rule one : On the runway or on the road - EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!

"Good Luck" -you will need it!
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:34
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Some people haven't read the report
Well we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of a good story.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:17
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Sir Robert Peel who formed the Royal Irish Constabulary in 1814, and then the Met.in London (1829), said on his return from Ireland - "there is no appetite for the truth in Ireland" - nothing has changed - the truth is regarded as a matter of opinion here -any fairy story is preferred to the facts. Sometimes it's fun, more often it's the ongoing tragedy.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:50
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In 1992 about 16,500 army defence force took claims for noise induced hearing loss from firearms training and received €300 million in compensation. You join the army, fire a few rounds and get compensation for something that is difficult to prove?


An ambulance driver and a solicitor, you see it's all part of the Pan-Pan theatre here.


So next time you land here, remember to play your cards right and make friends with a solicitor of course.
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 12:47
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I once worked at a small private airport, and used sit in with ground ops as we'd cross the runway for various errands. It was standard procedure to hold short of the runway, look up and down and make sure nothing was taking off or landing at the same time.

I can only imagine Dublin airport would have the same procedures, and it must be one of the first thing they teach the new employees... "eh keep an eye out for the planes there".
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 13:39
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Of course if she'd asked for and been granted clearance to cross the runway because someone had been reported as having a cardiac arrest in the terminal that'd be just a 'various' errand wouldn't it?
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 16:47
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Of course if she'd asked for and been granted clearance to cross the runway because someone had been reported as having a cardiac arrest in the terminal that'd be just a 'various' errand wouldn't it?

"Passenger dies of heart attack in terminal while waiting for delayed ambulance whose driver had heart attack after nearly being hit by a/c."

Lawyers' field day.
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 17:00
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I can only imagine Dublin airport would have the same procedures, and it must be one of the first thing they teach the new employees... "eh keep an eye out for the planes there".
Would that be before or after they are taught "Trust ATC, their job is to know where all the aircraft are" ?
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 22:25
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Was there no serious incident report made about this.

Surely if she was cleared to cross the runway while an aircraft was on the takeoff roll, an incident report must have been made to the authorities.

If not, why not?

Some of the responses on here are dumber than the journos.
Are you guys really pilots??

I'm not.
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 12:27
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When handling guns you learn that for safety you always treat them as loaded - there is no such thing as an unloaded weapon.

Similarly, when working on or around airports you should always treat every runway (that is in both directions) as if there is an aircraft using it - there is no such thing as an inactive runway. ALWAYS look both ways crossing any runway even if you have clearance to cross.
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 12:38
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And I believe from my ambulance driver friends that when they get a call they always treat it as critical until proved otherwise. I believe she must have looked otherwise wouldn't have stopped. But when you are totally focussed on getting to the patient ASAP to possibly save a life AND have clearance to cross the runway I am guessing a 'leisurely' drive wasn't happening.
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Old 13th Oct 2016, 23:53
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Whilst seeing an a/c rolling towards you would be a nasty moment, an ambulance can brake or speed up considerably faster than the a/c. The vehicle driver could have decided to stop, or accelerate across the runway with the same mental speed as they make when approaching an intersection with red lights.

Even when crossing green lights - when running under blues and siren - you have to expect that someone will not see/hear you and approach you from your blind side. For example, if they are jumping a light towards your intended path. This is all part of the Day 1 training, so (as the situation is reported here) I have my doubts as a runway intersection has considerably better sight lines than when entering (say, Hyde Park Corner or Marble Arch in London - both junctions have 5 roads of double lanes, meeting around a large circle with a lump of stone in the middle to block your view.

When there is one taxiway and one runway and two vehicles and no visual obstruction? (A nephew of mine has been driving amublances under blue lights for four years.)
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 09:43
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Case settled out of court:


The Irish Aviation Authority had entered a full defence to Ms O’Neill’s claim, denying liability. It claimed that although there had been an error on the part of air traffic control, the plane had been 86m away from Ms O’Neill when she had stopped her ambulance. It also claimed her injuries were caused by her own imagining what might have happened had she hit the plane.


Today Mr Gallagher, who appeared with Anderson & Gallagher solicitors for Ms O’Neill, said that following talks between the parties, her claim had settled. Judge Groarke struck out the case and made no order regarding legal costs.
Source.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 17:12
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ATC vector an a/c i such a way that an RA is generated. Pilots sue ATC. It hasn't happened yet...............? Please don't tell the pax.
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 15:07
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Hope they did not pay her much
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