Men kicked off flight for looking too Muslim
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Let's hope the flight attendant, Captain etc who were so uncomfortable at being in the presence of a Muslim never have to go through a security channel at LHR, especially with their quite limited understanding about who is probably a Muslim and who is probably not, such as a Sikh.
Their discomfort levels might be so high they have to self-offload.
Their discomfort levels might be so high they have to self-offload.
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Many moon ago there was a VIP middle eastern pax travelling on a very big American Airline across the pond.
The cabin crew, bless 'em, soon identified the passenger because of his style of dress.
It had to be pointed out that the VIP was the young man in a polo shirt and jeans and not the one in traditional clothing.
The cabin crew, bless 'em, soon identified the passenger because of his style of dress.
It had to be pointed out that the VIP was the young man in a polo shirt and jeans and not the one in traditional clothing.
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Nobody here knows why they were removed other then what has been reported in the Daily news. PAX get themselves removed everyday for a number of reasons. The number one reason is alcohol.
Lets not resort to alleging the Flight Attendants are white racist who have never encountered Muslims aboard their aircraft before. Good Grief.
Lets not resort to alleging the Flight Attendants are white racist who have never encountered Muslims aboard their aircraft before. Good Grief.
Lets not resort to alleging the Flight Attendants are white racist who have never encountered Muslims aboard their aircraft before. Good Grief.
Tonight, the Mayor of Washington, DC, has declared an approaching winter snowstorm as a 'Homeland Security event', because the weather forecasters have only twice before forecast such a big snowfall - 12" to 15'.
18" of snow in DC is not common, but its certainly not unknown. This system is moving quickly and will certainly move out in 24 to 36 hours.
To me it smells of the security services trying find another job for themselves, presumably because there's not enough action on the Homeland Security frontline..
Settle down guys, take a deep breath and deal with it. Some people look 'different'.
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CAPPT: The problem in the USA and elsewhere these days is that paranoia is rampant.
The third post in this thread, I wont quote it because it doesn't deserve to be reposted, is very offensive. I'm surprised MODS think it OK?
If you want to talk about Paranoia and profilers lets talk about Kuwait Airlines whom just decided they would rather not fly into JFK then carry an Israeli passenger aboard. GO figure. Blatant discrimination.
Kuwait Airways drops NYC-London route
18" of snow in DC is not common, but its certainly not unknown. This system is moving quickly and will certainly move out in 24 to 36 hours.
But most attacks today are by homegrown animals, a very high percentage of whom have mental issues. The level of destruction they inflict do not warrant the level of defensive measures employed.
Get to the source, stop the 'wingnuts' who are the real issue today. Thankfully, Kuwait Airways stopped themselves!
"CAPPT: The problem in the USA and elsewhere these days is that paranoia is rampant."
Let's give it a rest, okay mate?
AAL like any other US corporation today has strict marching orders in compliance with political correctness standards. That includes Muslims and people of all colors present on probably ANY flight yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Any AAL Captain and any US airline Captain would be fighting for their jobs within hours of making a call that they removed 4 passengers, especially 2 in business class because they were simply Muslims. For you typical PPruners that lambast the USA endlessly on subjects like this, close your eyes and repeat the above statement several times for therapy.
I have ZERO information on this event other than the media. Odds are there was other behavior that was suspect to the crew, and odds are the group didn't respond well to instructions or requests of the crew and that was got them tossed.
How many flights does AAL fly in a typical day? More than most countries.
Let's give it a rest, okay mate?
AAL like any other US corporation today has strict marching orders in compliance with political correctness standards. That includes Muslims and people of all colors present on probably ANY flight yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Any AAL Captain and any US airline Captain would be fighting for their jobs within hours of making a call that they removed 4 passengers, especially 2 in business class because they were simply Muslims. For you typical PPruners that lambast the USA endlessly on subjects like this, close your eyes and repeat the above statement several times for therapy.
I have ZERO information on this event other than the media. Odds are there was other behavior that was suspect to the crew, and odds are the group didn't respond well to instructions or requests of the crew and that was got them tossed.
How many flights does AAL fly in a typical day? More than most countries.
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The media often tends to over react in both directions when these things erupt. Remember the US AIR incident. It will be a long time given the legal process before we probably find out what really happened and if there were additional factors other than appearance that resulted in the removal.
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A few decades ago, at LHR during an ATC assistants' strike, if the story is truthful, a sheik's private jet was delayed for a long time due ATC. His response was to ask how much LHR ATC cost to buy.
Today, with the oil price slightly depressed, this might not be so ready a solution. Still, it would amuse me if a group of sheik clad business passengers was asked to deplane and then they offered to buy the airline.
Today, with the oil price slightly depressed, this might not be so ready a solution. Still, it would amuse me if a group of sheik clad business passengers was asked to deplane and then they offered to buy the airline.
A few decades ago, at LHR during an ATC assistants' strike, if the story is truthful, a sheik's private jet was delayed for a long time due ATC. His response was to ask how much LHR ATC cost to buy.
Today, with the oil price slightly depressed, this might not be so ready a solution. Still, it would amuse me if a group of sheik clad business passengers was asked to deplane and then they offered to buy the airline.
Today, with the oil price slightly depressed, this might not be so ready a solution. Still, it would amuse me if a group of sheik clad business passengers was asked to deplane and then they offered to buy the airline.
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