Qatar Airways Runs Out Of Gas On Taxiway?
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Qatar Airways Runs Out Of Gas On Taxiway?
Buddy called me and said that Qater Airways from Doha to Chicago yesterday diverted to DTW and ran out of gas on taxiway in.
Can't find it in the news anywhere. Anyone hear about this?
Can't find it in the news anywhere. Anyone hear about this?
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Looks like they did indeed divert to DTW due to weather in ORD:
Qatar Airways (QR) #725 ? 21-Nov-2015 ? OTHH / DOH - KDTW ? FlightAware
Qatar Airways (QR) #725 ? 21-Nov-2015 ? OTHH / DOH - KDTW ? FlightAware
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Don't admit it:
Shut down left engine due to low oil pressure, unable to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways. Request a tug to gate.
Have contractor pump 50,000 lbs for flight to original destination.
Get clearance, take off.
Shut down left engine due to low oil pressure, unable to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways. Request a tug to gate.
Have contractor pump 50,000 lbs for flight to original destination.
Get clearance, take off.
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It sounds like they went around in DTW followed by landing.
Yes, low oil pressure on left engine; flameouts do that!
Flight track shows close to 15 hrs in air and 7100 nm traveled.
Yes, low oil pressure on left engine; flameouts do that!
Flight track shows close to 15 hrs in air and 7100 nm traveled.
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Shut down left engine due to low oil pressure, unable to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways. Request a tug to gate.
"Unable to to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways" does not compute.
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Hang on - this is a thrust driven aircraft, not a wheel driven car! Slippery taxiway = reduced friction co-efficient = easier taxiing on one engine (assuming enough friction on surface to compensate for asymmetrical thrust through tiller steering angle).
"Unable to to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways" does not compute.
"Unable to to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways" does not compute.
So, it is unclear in your post in what way it makes it "easier" taxiing on one engine - how is this so?
Have you experienced winter conditions taxiing a large transport? If not, you should know that in some conditions, the airplane will even "sail" in a strong enough wind...(but not usually in the direction one wants!), and the only way out is to call for the tug, if it can reach you without sliding off the taxiway itself! ;-)
If I had judged the taxiways too slippery I certainly woudn't be shutting down any engines to "save fuel & hours-on-the-engine" and few would.
Back to the original point - did the engine shut down due no fuel?
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Also: did they top up the oil, replace the pump and have an engineering dispatch for whatever caused low oil pressure: that is if they just fuelled up and blasted off? Oh, and clean the seats.
Hang on - this is a thrust driven aircraft, not a wheel driven car! Slippery taxiway = reduced friction co-efficient = easier taxiing on one engine (assuming enough friction on surface to compensate for asymmetrical thrust through tiller steering angle).
"Unable to to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways" does not compute.
"Unable to to taxi on 1 engine due to slippery taxi ways" does not compute.
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Have you experienced winter conditions taxiing a large transport? If not, you should know that in some conditions, the airplane will even "sail" in a strong enough wind...(but not usually in the direction one wants!), and the only way out is to call for the tug, if it can reach you without sliding off the taxiway itself! ;-)
These conditions obtain at some point during the winter season at YUL, YHZ, YYT, YJT and other Canadian airports on the eastern seaboard.
Re-connected tractor and returned to the gate.
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747 BLOWN OFF RUNWAY 1975
https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=2909,3239711
With 100 passengers and 20 crew and 30 kt winds- 747 blew off taxiway and into gully- major damage - minor injuries
This was in anchorage alaska 1975..
With 100 passengers and 20 crew and 30 kt winds- 747 blew off taxiway and into gully- major damage - minor injuries
This was in anchorage alaska 1975..
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FLIGHT DETENT. True. We will never know. Loss of face & all that. Like the other lot who scraped ILS aerials & App Lights on T/O. Did we hear anything else ? Nah. Middle East Yanni !
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Word is the flight landed with more than enough legal and safe fuel. The fuel ran low from the multiple hour wait, 6 hours actually, on the taxiway waiting for a parking Bay.
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Nobody knows....
I do know personally one of the pilots and he is top notch, which leads me to discount some of the dumber theories.
There was mention about oil pressure? If they shut down an engine and it was slippery/icy then as mentioned controllability may have been an issue as well as being prohibited by company policy to do a single engine taxi if contaminated.
Prior to 777 I've only flown turboprops and 3 or 4 engine jets, but all were much easier to taxi with an engine shut down
I do know personally one of the pilots and he is top notch, which leads me to discount some of the dumber theories.
There was mention about oil pressure? If they shut down an engine and it was slippery/icy then as mentioned controllability may have been an issue as well as being prohibited by company policy to do a single engine taxi if contaminated.
Prior to 777 I've only flown turboprops and 3 or 4 engine jets, but all were much easier to taxi with an engine shut down
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