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Old 29th Jul 2015, 09:09
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Aer Lingus flight forced to swerve in take-off to avoid jet | Irish Examiner

Cessna Citation taxied onto active with departing A320 on take off roll

"“Speedbird 726, go around, I repeat go around, traffic has interfered on the runway,” the controller said.

When the British Airways crew acknowledged the “go around” instruction, the controller informed them: “There is an Airbus A320 [Aer Lingus] which has just fortunately departed without any problems.”

The controller then contacted the Aer Lingus flight, asking: “Are you okay?” The Aer Lingus crew replied: “Affirm, we had enough room to take a right around the traffic but luckily we were okay, yes.”"
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Bit worried by this statement: "he controller then contacted the Aer Lingus flight, asking: “Are you okay?” The Aer Lingus crew replied: “Affirm, we had enough room to take a right around the traffic but luckily we were okay, yes.”
Sounds like a very close call
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Surprised we haven't heard more about this?!

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Sounds like a very close call. Bravo to the Aer Lingus crew
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If I understood the ATC conversation correctly, the Citation was told to hold short of the active runway. The runway incursion is at 3:15 on the recording.

The controller recovered her composure very quickly after the event, though she definitely sounded rattled - understandably!
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Makes you wonder what goes on in the cockpit sometimes? Are the pilots in a hurry, are they lost, is their mindset on another task than taxi'ing (checklists and so on). Fortunately it's not a common thing to have a runway incursion (if you look at it compared to the number of aircrafts that actually hold short of runways, or even get a clarification that they were actually allowed to line up/cross when they get close). But it's nasty anyway.

Maybe we need spikes at the holding points, so they get a flat tire if they cross

Hopefully someone talked a bit to the crew/controller afterwards, just to make sure they were okay.
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Hopefully someone talked a bit to the crew/controller afterwards, just to make sure they were okay.
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Certainly in NATS there is a procedure for "defusing" staff after an incident. As a watch manager I would have removed the controller from the position and a trained (peer) counsellor would have been available to offer support.

On the face of it this sounds like a very serious incident and I do hope the Swiss have something in place.

My concern would be the state of mind of the flight crew who are left with the remainder of the sector to complete.
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Serious answer - in the ATC world, CISM is quite widely used, at least in the European region.
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