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Old 17th Jul 2015, 11:33
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B777 Compartment door

Came across this:

Compartment door of Boeing 777 crashed through factory roof in China

Is this possible? Why would the aircraft not experience any difficulty over such a thing?
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 00:25
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Simple!

Not all things that are attached or part of an aircraft are going to make an aircraft "fall out" of the sky if they separate from the aircraft even an engine can rip off an aircraft and it will still fly... Isn't that amazing!

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Old 18th Jul 2015, 06:18
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"China's aviation authority confirmed the metal plate was part of a Boeing 777 passenger aircraft, most likely part of a landing gear compartment door."

So they know it's from a 777 (how?) but they haven't been able to identify positively which door/panel it actually is?

Hmmm.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 13:16
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Stuff that falls off is rarely identified as belonging to a specific aircraft as nobody wants to open themselves up to damage claims.

The loss of the part itself becomes part of a record to the regulator but not the exact trajectory.

I've seen stuff weighing 500 pounds or more recovered but not linked to a specific aircraft. On the other hand I've seen stuff that was identified not being released by the finder except for a whole lot of money. Of course that doesn't stop investigators from examining it in situ
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 13:35
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Wouldn't it have a part number? And could the a/c it belonged to not be identified through the manufacturer? Just asking.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 13:37
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So they know it's from a 777 (how?) but they haven't been able to identify positively which door/panel it actually is?
The panel will have a part no on it, and I bet the airline hasn't noticed it's missing yet.
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 13:44
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HT we both posted at the same time, if it's just a panel it will have a part no but that won't point to the airline, other more important items i.e. actuators for example carry a serial no which is logged to the particular aircraft and it's log book, i.e. 'lifed items' Stuart.
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Negative safety before your eyes

...the airline involved would be given an official warning...
Stop things from falling from your aircraft. You have been warned. Pay attention!

What on earth will such puerile action achieve? No operator wants anything to fall from their aircraft. To be told that something has fallen from your aircraft is worthwhile. But the above sounds like the precursor to punitive action - something that will persuade operators to deny all responsibility at all costs and start obliterating evidence.

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Ah OK, thanks superq7.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 06:35
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A/c reportedly Air France 777-300ER F-GSQF.
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Old 19th Jul 2015, 07:20
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. . . There's a part number there for them if they want !
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And assuming that what has fallen from an aircraft on approach is the body of a stowaway, who then is liable?
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even an engine can rip off an aircraft and it will still fly
If the engine comes off clean, maybe yes. But usually they don't, and cause severe damage to the airframe in the process, see El Al 1862 as a textbook example.
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Originally Posted by mary meagher
And assuming that what has fallen from an aircraft on approach is the body of a stowaway, who then is liable?
Airport security, I presume...
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A/c reportedly Air France 777-300ER F-GSQF.
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On Jul 19th 2015 Boeing identified the main gear panel as belonging to Air France's Boeing 777-300 registration F-GSQF which had departed Shanghai as flight AF-111. The part does not belong to the gear structure itsself but to the mechanism that opens and closes the gear doors. The incident is treated with utmost concern and urgency, a service bulletin has already been released and the changes have already been implemented in the production line of Boeing 777s.

Incident: Air France B773 at Shanghai on Jul 13th 2015, dropped gear panel
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SB

Service Bulletin released in may 2007.
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Air France not implementing A/D's in a timely manner, where have I heard that before?
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Yes, AF447. Pilot error...
Was the landing gear retracted timely?

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Old 21st Jul 2015, 13:26
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Boeing call it a PDA event...

Parts departing airplane.
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I guess other guy must call this event RDA, flights 961 587, again maintenance and pilot errors
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