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Old 16th Dec 2014, 20:33
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Flybe Engine Fire

Belfast plane: Emergency declared as engine goes on fire

All evacuated safely!!

BBC News - Belfast plane: Emergency declared as engine goes on fire
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G-FLBC appears to be the aircraft involved. Good news that no one was hurt.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 00:55
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Emergency response

Glad no one was hurt. At least they have emergency response as a precaution - it would be asking for too much in Australia! Please see below:

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...e-failure.html

May be OEI with engine fire only would warrant emergency response and an ATSB investigation? Oh we are ill-informed pax who mean nothing to those in the 'jump seat' and are obliged to get frightened.
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Like the last engine shutdown thread! Let the armchair know it alls commence! Please do not bother waiting for any facts
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Rarely post here anymore, but in this case, from what I have read, good job crew. Single eng landings never routine, and calming the pax whilst planning all adds to the potential drama...so in this example, a deserved pat on the back, I hope.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 09:24
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The passenger interviewed on the BBC stated "he asked a fireman where to stand and the fireman did not have a clue"

Really...I very much doubt it... i have seen them exercise and their throughly professional.
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The fire brigade have zero interest in passenger control during a situation like this. A lesson learnt the hard way by Flybe on the IOM a few years back.
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I thought UK airports were supposed to corral everyone, and separate out pax and crew following an incident and/or evacuation?
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 12:35
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Well the IOM may be different to the UK () but one thing to come out in the AAIB report was that the fire brigade will NOT involve themselves in crowd control whilst they are controlling whatever emergency they're dealing with.

It was an eye opener for everybody and something to think about.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 17:42
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I was once holding short of the north runway at KMIA one night and a 737 across the runway on a parallel taxiway called saying that they had a fire in the cockpit and were evacuating the passengers via the emergency slides.

We saw the emergency exits open, the main cabin doors open, the slides deploy and then escape slides come out and inflate. Then here came the passengers down the slides. My God, I didn’t know a 737 could carry that many passengers, they were like ants running away from an anthill. There were running away in about every direction, some heading toward the active runway.

So I turned on my landing lights (727) so the area would illuminated and then the tower cleared us for takeoff. The tower did not know the 737 was spewing passengers all over that end of the airport. Well that made things interesting. My co-pilot called the tower back and told them considering everything, we would wait until all the people running around were corralled. After our call the tower realized that the 737 was evacuating its passengers.

I have to say that after the CFR folks were notified their response was extremely rapid. But it still took 30 minutes before we could make an intersection takeoff from about 2,000 feet down the end of the runway. In this case, after the CFR crews handled the fire, which was just smoke in the cockpit, they and the airport police did help round up the passengers and move them to a safe area where they were loaded on busses.

By the way, this happened the night after hurricane Andrews destroyed the southern half of the Miami area the previous night.
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AAIB to Belfast

According to the AAIB website "The AAIB is deploying a team to Belfast International Airport to investigate a serious incident to an airliner. "

Does anyone have any more information?
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 22:12
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This probably!! http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...gine-fire.html
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 22:27
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Hmmmm

Flybe quote:

""At no time was the safety and well-being of passengers compromised"

Surely a contender for most preposterous quote from the PR dept of 2014 award. Yes we all train for all sorts of scenarios. But ultimately the thing was on fire. Therefore I would say the safety and well being of said passengers was compromised.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 22:44
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Is the FlyBe fire according to AVHerald. Incident: Flybe DH8D near Belfast on Dec 16th 2014, engine fire
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Flybe quote:

"At no time was the safety and well-being of passengers compromised"

AAIB statement:

"The AAIB is deploying a team to Belfast International Airport to investigate a serious incident to an airliner"
Serious incident (ICAO Annex 13): An incident involving circumstances indicating that an accident nearly occurred. The difference between an accident and a serious incident lies only in the result.

Hmmm indeed.
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I think passenger safety was compromised, to an extent, from the moment the engine failed until they were in a terminal building.
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 09:48
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Flybe Engine Fire

I think they need to start taking a look at there engine run up procedures as any flybe flight I have been on they never run the port engine up to full temp before take off, and have it shut down before on stand at the arrival airport. Seems like bad practice to me.
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 17:30
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Well now 350s,

On what basis and evidence would you say a single engine taxi on a Dash 8-400 is bad practice?

Why would you say this could contribute to an engine fire?

Please respond with reference to FCOMs and statistical history or else stick to the PC flight sims.
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Is there a problem with Dash 8 engines?

It may be a strange co-incidence but the following both are exactly same type of aircraft and same type of engines (incidentally same side!):

Incident: Sunstate DH8D at Dubbo on Dec 5th 2014, engine shut down in flight
Incident: Flybe DH8D near Belfast on Dec 16th 2014, engine fire
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 09:13
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airbus350s - a few airlines do single engine taxi including the one I work for so I don't think it has anything to do with the engine fire to be honest.

Ozmd - a coincidence. Out of all the Q400s flying around the world to have 2 with an engine problem does not represent a trend or major problem.
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