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Old 21st Apr 2016, 16:33
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Nope, this idiot was kind enough to post his evidence of his 3.4 km (11000 ft) altitude flight just outside the CTR of Rotterdam Airport:

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Old 21st Apr 2016, 19:29
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Newly issued drone recognition chart by the CAA
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 22:18
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The report says the pilot informed ATC and police after he landed.

Virtues v hassles of making a call immediately to ATC so as to warn following aircraft?
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 22:43
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Virtues v hassles of making a call immediately to ATC so as to warn following aircraft?
Might have been preoccupied with all the work involved in landing at a major airport, let alone getting into a non standard R/T exchange with a French controller busy vectoring multiple aircraft.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 02:10
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Drones/rpas/UAV.... whatever!!

It used to be foil kiddies balloons whipping past our windscreens at FL160 being called UFO's. Looks like they have been renamed "Drone"
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'Drone' Geo-fencing trials at LHR proving successful. Plans for nationwide rollout will start at Sainsbury's car park Hounslow.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 08:34
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Originally Posted by Jetscream 32
Newly issued drone recognition chart by the CAA
Jetscream you need to add plastic bags to your pictures of 'Drones' see Drone believed to have hit British Airways flight 'may have been a plastic bag'
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 08:49
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Doh.... back to the drawing board! Surely there would of been impact marks of some description, crikey the times Ive had a bird strike even small birds.... and you definitely know for sure!! However point being even if it wasn't this time.... it won't be long!
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Old 26th Apr 2016, 05:09
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iYouu have to add the fire ballloons in Thailand every major festival especially in Loy Kratong. I am sure two loops of welding iron about 40 cm radius will go straight through an engine with no problem.
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 10:14
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BA flight unlikely to have been hit by a drone.

http://http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36159117
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 10:22
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Perhaps, just perhaps, some of the drone near misses were in fact not drones as well.....?

Perhaps idiots flying in control zones is not as common as some on here suggest?
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 14:24
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It's easy to make a recognition error.

I can hold my hand up for seeing what I thought looked like a microlight plunging into the Clyde Estuary one evening. I reported the event and a search was made by the local lifeboat.
All they could find was a large deflated balloon

Would I report such a sighting again? Yes, of course I would; next time I may be correct.
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Old 5th May 2016, 15:42
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Well, my company has just patented a directional jamming device which jams GPS, video link and control input. You aim it at the drone, select what you want to jam and pull the trigger.
The aim is to make the pilot feel like he has lost control over his device. When you release the trigger, control comes back and what should happen is the pilot will land the drone thinking something is wrong. If not, the action is repeated until he gets the message.
This equipment was successfully used during New Year. A total of 41 drones were made to go away during the course of 30 minutes during the fireworks display at Taipei 101.
The jamming device can disable a drone up to 1.2 km away, and as it is directional and has a beam of around 10 degrees, it does not interfere with other 2.4 or 5.8 equipment unless the equipment is pointed directly at it. Other GPS units are also not effected.

Forget nets.
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Old 5th May 2016, 16:12
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Patent number?
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Old 5th May 2016, 16:38
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No way. Not on a public forum.

But here are some pictures FYI







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Old 5th May 2016, 18:07
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it would affect purchased drones, but not all diy ones, you would need to add magnetic interference as well. It would not be to hard to make a drone attacking drone to bring any drones down.

The problem with designing any system to combat drones is, its quite easy to design around. Whereas, drone killing drones, is relatively easy and cheap,

for around £ 500, it not hard to knock together a very complex set of sensors and control board that could get a drone from position a to position b and do whatever there, that could not be jammed or confused easily.

but, it would be easy to build sensor arrays to detect any drones around airports and flight paths, and easy to target a drone with a drone and guarantee to bring it down.
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Old 5th May 2016, 18:18
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The main concern is commercially available drones though, bought by idiots. Anyone who can build a drone is probably intelligent enough not to fly by airports unless their sole purpose is to do just that. If they are determined to get through airport security, they will and they will build a drone specifically designed for that.

My jammer can be used for any airport, prison, border agency, coast guard, police service etc...and as stated in the initial post, is designed against most commercially available drones.

It can also be adapted to block 3g, wifi and 2.4g using omni directional antennas. This is for public order issues. Although I don't agree with the police being able to do this, some agencies in the US - land of freedom - have expressed a interest...

Morals or money? Hmmm...
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Old 5th May 2016, 18:33
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Its a good bit of kit,

my post was a bit sharp, i was specifically on about airports. I could see plenty of use for them as security devices at events as well as prisions, and usefull for celebrity's . Good idea.
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Old 5th May 2016, 18:37
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It's OK. I didn't take offence! We're actually working on a drone vs drone solution, so we'll see how that goes.

:-)

Have a good evening!
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Old 6th May 2016, 09:06
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Originally Posted by Benbecula
No way. Not on a public forum.
Why not - patents are a public record. It certainly looks sexy, but I'd be interested to read the patent to see how you "jam GPS" from ground level, how you manage to develop sufficient power to "jam" 5.8GHz signals at 1.2km and how you legally "jam" the 2.4GHz signals without contravening the regulations on duty cycles and power levels. I'm also intrigued to know how these 10-degree beamwidth omnidirectional antennas work.

And then there's the minor issue of contravening the ANO (in the UK, and the equivalent laws which say the same thing in the colonies) by recklessly endangering an air vehicle in flight.

Is it that you have a hankering for prison food or something?



PS - does it also detect IEDs and corporate tax evasion?
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