Dublin: 2 x RYR in contact during taxi. Both damaged.
Guy taxiing for RWY 28 could not have been closer to hold point in this photo
Ryanair planes clip each other at Dublin Airport - RTÉ News
Ryanair planes clip each other at Dublin Airport - RTÉ News
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No wonder,the last few times in dublin and Madrid,they were just taxiing like mad.One asked in spanish to overtake me which they got the clearance for,and he whizzed by like his ass was on fire.
Seems like some blokes are getting too deep into the "low cost" on time performance and should take a step back and reflect on this before it happens to them.
Seems like some blokes are getting too deep into the "low cost" on time performance and should take a step back and reflect on this before it happens to them.
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It would appear that they're trying. 
Joking aside, p'raps Dublin should take a really close look at that part of the airfield? The various 'guvmint health warnings' in the AIP imply that things are all a bit tight round there.
Joking aside, p'raps Dublin should take a really close look at that part of the airfield? The various 'guvmint health warnings' in the AIP imply that things are all a bit tight round there.
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Whatever happened to good old fashioned airmanship? Also, is it not the captains responsibility to maintain adequate clearance from other obstacles whilst taxying? Sounds simple enough to me!!
Looking at the charts and photos, it appears the stationary aircraft was at or near the E1 hold and the moving one approaching B2. Not a lot of room, probably an accident waiting to happen.
I think I’d be asking for marshalling assistance. If enough people did that the airport authority might do something about it...
I think I’d be asking for marshalling assistance. If enough people did that the airport authority might do something about it...
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An Engineered Solution Maybe?
A way of making it easier for pilots to judge clearances, especially at night time, would be to incorporate a coloured laser marker in the Nav light assembly. This could be a shielded coloured strobe, projecting the wingtip or tail relative position onto the taxiway. Pilots will then have an accurate indication as to where they are with reference to the taxiway markings.
Including these marker lights in the Nav light Assy will simplify retro fit, new build a/c could incorporate air/ground sensing, so they can be turned off in flight.
Including these marker lights in the Nav light Assy will simplify retro fit, new build a/c could incorporate air/ground sensing, so they can be turned off in flight.
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The best thing for Dub is to concrete it over and build houses on the site.
Then build a new modern airport.
Then build a new modern airport.
That would require forward thinking and sensible decision making!
Unfortunately those kind of decisions are made by politicians that only care about keeping their jobs at the next election!
How did the Japanese manage to build Narita? Did they lock the politicians up for twenty years?
Sunbird has a point. New restrictions on taxiway use coming into force in DUB. No use of 'A' and 'B2' when 28/34 in use. Morning rush will be fun.
Every incident seems to bring a new restriction despite being mainly due to a c*ck up in most cases. Taxiways Z and Y effectively permanently closed. No conditional clearances. Required to read back 'hold short of 28 and 34' despite it being single runway most of the day. Required to say first point in FMS which non locals never understand and no other airport requires because AF took a Cat B SID once.
Seems the logical end point is to only have one aircraft moving on the airfield at a time if they keep going the way they are.
Every incident seems to bring a new restriction despite being mainly due to a c*ck up in most cases. Taxiways Z and Y effectively permanently closed. No conditional clearances. Required to read back 'hold short of 28 and 34' despite it being single runway most of the day. Required to say first point in FMS which non locals never understand and no other airport requires because AF took a Cat B SID once.
Seems the logical end point is to only have one aircraft moving on the airfield at a time if they keep going the way they are.
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ATC maintain a separation in the sky, surely it would be possible to arrange the same on the ground... Lets say at least 100 metres from any other airplane.... You could still pack 10 onto a 1km taxiway.
Airport Charts....
http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eidw_charts.htm
Airport Charts....
http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eidw_charts.htm