UA 777 diverts to Midway with fire
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UA 777 diverts to Midway with fire
Looks like a UA 777 has has an onboard fire event diverted to MDY.
United (UA) #201 ? 10-Jul-2014 ? PHNL - PMDY ? FlightAware
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Seems so.
UA201/10JUL
Seems they were delayed for a few hours with an issue.
And that must have "reappeared".
Worry about the smoke....and divert
Then you get to worry about bird strikes when you're leaving !
UA201/10JUL
Seems they were delayed for a few hours with an issue.
And that must have "reappeared".
Worry about the smoke....and divert
Then you get to worry about bird strikes when you're leaving !
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Finally mainstream media have caught up
United 777 Diverts to Remote Pacific Island After Burning Smell Reported - ABC News
United 777 Diverts to Remote Pacific Island After Burning Smell Reported - ABC News
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This event is particularly scary. Fire/smoke is the #1 fear and in one of the worlds most remote locations over water at night is a potential disaster. Well done to the crew who likely had luck on their side. There is a number of cockpit fires on record for the 777 and we unquestionably must get answers to MH370. 1000 of these big Boeing twins birds in the skies every day.
http://avherald.com/h?article=47729f02&opt=0
A United Boeing 777-200, registration N210UA performing flight UA-201 (dep Jul 10th) from Honolulu,HI (USA) to Guam,MP (USA), was enroute at FL350 over the Pacific Ocean about 300nm southsouthwest of Midway Islands,UM (USA) and about 850nm west of Honolulu when the crew decided to return to Honolulu due to smell of smoke on board. The aircraft descended to FL300 for the way back. About 10 minutes later haze was observed in the cabin prompting the crew to turn north and divert to Midway Islands. The aircraft dumped fuel and landed safely in Midway about one hour after turning around.
A Passenger reported there was a "problem with one of the wings" and the cabin became smokey. Multiple passengers reported the aircraft had suffered technical problems involving a burning smell in the cockpit prior to departure and departed Honolulu with a delay of about 4 hours as result. Passengers tweeted that the aircraft dumped fuel on the way to Midway.
There is a report on the Internet telling that the aircraft lost transponder, radios and other systems one by one, however, radar data indicate the transponder worked until touchdown.
A replacement Boeing 777-200 registration N779UA positioned to Midway as flight UA-2068 and returned the passengers to Honolulu as flight UA-2104 delivering the passengers back to Honolulu about 14 hours after their departure from Honolulu.
http://avherald.com/h?article=47729f02&opt=0
A United Boeing 777-200, registration N210UA performing flight UA-201 (dep Jul 10th) from Honolulu,HI (USA) to Guam,MP (USA), was enroute at FL350 over the Pacific Ocean about 300nm southsouthwest of Midway Islands,UM (USA) and about 850nm west of Honolulu when the crew decided to return to Honolulu due to smell of smoke on board. The aircraft descended to FL300 for the way back. About 10 minutes later haze was observed in the cabin prompting the crew to turn north and divert to Midway Islands. The aircraft dumped fuel and landed safely in Midway about one hour after turning around.
A Passenger reported there was a "problem with one of the wings" and the cabin became smokey. Multiple passengers reported the aircraft had suffered technical problems involving a burning smell in the cockpit prior to departure and departed Honolulu with a delay of about 4 hours as result. Passengers tweeted that the aircraft dumped fuel on the way to Midway.
There is a report on the Internet telling that the aircraft lost transponder, radios and other systems one by one, however, radar data indicate the transponder worked until touchdown.
A replacement Boeing 777-200 registration N779UA positioned to Midway as flight UA-2068 and returned the passengers to Honolulu as flight UA-2104 delivering the passengers back to Honolulu about 14 hours after their departure from Honolulu.
however, radar data indicate the transponder worked until touchdown.
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People will obviously make comparisons with MH370
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Spot on.
1. See orignal post. FlightAware shows the track to Henderson.
2. A/C was able to communicate intentions.
The only thing(s) that are comparable ....are merely coincidental.
BIG "pat on the back" to the crew.
Spot on.
1. See orignal post. FlightAware shows the track to Henderson.
2. A/C was able to communicate intentions.
The only thing(s) that are comparable ....are merely coincidental.
BIG "pat on the back" to the crew.
Unfortunately, some people have already made their mind up that MH370 was a cockpit fire, and are happily ignoring information that doesn't support that theory while placing undue significance on apparently unrelated events.
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No SDR Data Available
Unfortunately we will not see more from the Service Difficulty Reports (reporting) system either.
Unlike American, Delta or Southwest, there are no United SDRs filed since nearly a year before ( July 26,2013).
To View These Records; See FAA’s Service Difficulty Report. Query Link > http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx
Date Field; May 1, 2014 to present (Checked on July 13th).
Carriers Sampled
American (FAA Operator Designator Code - AALA), > 210 records.
Delta (DALA), > 99 records.
Southwest (SWAA), > 175 records.
United (UALA), > No Records After July 26, 2013.
Unlike American, Delta or Southwest, there are no United SDRs filed since nearly a year before ( July 26,2013).
To View These Records; See FAA’s Service Difficulty Report. Query Link > http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx
Date Field; May 1, 2014 to present (Checked on July 13th).
Carriers Sampled
American (FAA Operator Designator Code - AALA), > 210 records.
Delta (DALA), > 99 records.
Southwest (SWAA), > 175 records.
United (UALA), > No Records After July 26, 2013.
Unfortunately we will not see more from the Service Difficulty Reports (reporting) system either.
Unfortunately we will not see more from the Service Difficulty Reports (reporting) system either.
Unlike American, Delta or Southwest, there are no United SDRs filed since nearly a year before ( July 26,2013).
To View These Records; See FAA’s Service Difficulty Report. Query Link > http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx
Date Field; May 1, 2014 to present (Checked on July 13th).
Carriers Sampled
American (FAA Operator Designator Code - AALA), > 210 records.
Delta (DALA), > 99 records.
Southwest (SWAA), > 175 records.
United (UALA), > No Records After July 26, 2013.
Unlike American, Delta or Southwest, there are no United SDRs filed since nearly a year before ( July 26,2013).
To View These Records; See FAA’s Service Difficulty Report. Query Link > http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx
Date Field; May 1, 2014 to present (Checked on July 13th).
Carriers Sampled
American (FAA Operator Designator Code - AALA), > 210 records.
Delta (DALA), > 99 records.
Southwest (SWAA), > 175 records.
United (UALA), > No Records After July 26, 2013.
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United Now 'CALA'
Thanks MN Tech and J.O. It didn't occur to me that Continental (CALA) has now assumed United's filings. It appears they have with (examples) 194UA, 423UA, 548UA, or 652UA being listed there.
However, it may still be a while because the listings for nearly all are running about 8 weeks in the arrears. Last filing for CALA today is dated May 9th.
However, it may still be a while because the listings for nearly all are running about 8 weeks in the arrears. Last filing for CALA today is dated May 9th.
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While Midway Island does not have a proper ATC type system, it does have radio communication with aircraft landing and departing on the island, a UNICOM.
To receive a ATC clearance one must go to the airport operations office and call Oakland Center on a "land" line telephone. At least that is the way it used to be just a few years ago.
I'm sure having a 777 drop in is a lot of excitement for the folks based on Midway and of course the Gooney birds that call Midway home. Shoot, when I’d drop in for fuel in a Falcon 50 they got quite excited.
To receive a ATC clearance one must go to the airport operations office and call Oakland Center on a "land" line telephone. At least that is the way it used to be just a few years ago.
I'm sure having a 777 drop in is a lot of excitement for the folks based on Midway and of course the Gooney birds that call Midway home. Shoot, when I’d drop in for fuel in a Falcon 50 they got quite excited.
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A Guam Bound flight from HNL was diverted to Midway after fire was detected in the cockpit.
Instrumentation was lost including:
Radar
Radio Comms
Flying blind and cockpit gear going out one by one progressively
Instrumentation was lost including:
Radar
Radio Comms
Flying blind and cockpit gear going out one by one progressively
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Contacting PMDY and PWAK
Now that this topic is up for discussion, could some basic contact info for PMDY and PWAK please be disseminated.
For those of us that transit the area and use PMDY and PWAK as technical ETOPS alternates, how are the ground services and lighting organised?
Is ATC able to call out the services on for aircraft in need? Jeppesen has frequencies but are they monitored 24HRS? In daylight, WX permitting, it would be easy enough just to drop in but not so in the dark.
Any info greatly appreciated.
For those of us that transit the area and use PMDY and PWAK as technical ETOPS alternates, how are the ground services and lighting organised?
Is ATC able to call out the services on for aircraft in need? Jeppesen has frequencies but are they monitored 24HRS? In daylight, WX permitting, it would be easy enough just to drop in but not so in the dark.
Any info greatly appreciated.
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Check airnav.com for info on either airport.
7800' runway on midway island. radio monitored from 8 to 5
pilot controlled lighting. NDB apchs and RNAV apchs published.
I will only assume that there are portable stairs, but it makes sense.
I think this is a very serious situation.
7800' runway on midway island. radio monitored from 8 to 5
pilot controlled lighting. NDB apchs and RNAV apchs published.
I will only assume that there are portable stairs, but it makes sense.
I think this is a very serious situation.
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here is a very good report including pictures on the ground of the 777 being deplaned via portable stairs.
It appears the plane landed in the dark.
http://www.kitv.com/news/united-flig...915762#!bd8M6R
It appears the plane landed in the dark.
http://www.kitv.com/news/united-flig...915762#!bd8M6R