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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:40
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Life rafts

The life-rafts/slides operate automatically when the doors are opened, if the doors have been armed. Remember the "doors to automatic" announcements?

The slides/life-rafts MAY deploy during a crash landing where a door is damaged, but not automatically otherwise.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:44
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A quick point on the batteries were they something special, because the vast majority of them (even known branded) are manufactured IN china (look at your phone, pc, camera). Some use basic internal high quality cells manufactured in japan (and perhaps malay/singapore in offshore plants)

I vape and many forums tell us the better 18650 batteries, those which are ASSEMBLED in China using number of high quality "button" cells.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:46
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Would the aircraft have been ZFW limited? It would answer the question as to why the standby passengers were not loaded and also give a clue as to the weight of the "undeclared?" cargo and why the cargo manifest isn't being published.

Anyone familiar with the figures would like to do the calculations?
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:49
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Families to Australia

Sky News is reporting that the Malaysian government is planning to fly the families from Beijing to Australia.
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BBC just read out a txt sent to relatives. from mem gist of it - we must now assume the aircraft has crashed and there are no survivors.

would they send such a bland text when he is due to meet them.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:53
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Sky reporting

"Relatives told that they are sure without reasonable doubt that mh370 is lost with no survivors"
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:59
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AAIB briefed PM that Inmarsat have completed "unprecedented" further analysis, have concluded 370 flew along Southern corridor, last position Indian Ocean W of Perth.

Based on this have concluded plane lost there. Further details 'tomorrow'.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:00
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News conference does not confirm wreckage found belongs to flight...only last ping confirms southern route....
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:03
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I thought they had already more less confirmed this news, why a newsflash to confirm what we already knew

Edit to say i believe some of this 'debris' retrieved IS from MH370.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:04
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1am radio news reporting the same as Sky news - relatives told aircraft lost with no survivors.

Hope more info emerges when Captain's wife is interviewed and also explanation for his 2 min phone call with the mystery woman.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:05
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AAIB and Inmarsat has confirm through further data analysis, that MH370 had followed the Southern corridor path and ended up in the South Indian Ocean.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:06
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At this point everyone really has to accept the immense efforts and accuracy of the results by Inmarsat, they are owed a huge vote of thanks by all.

Be interesting to see how they were finally able to distinguish north from south.

Prof on BBC just said they & AAIB have basically crammed 12 months R&D into 2 weeks
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:07
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Yes, this means the tracking information is confirmed officially (new and positive analysis by Inmarsat).
They haven't given up looking. They seem to know now where to look with more certainty.

So is there any remaining doubt that this was an intentional act?
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:10
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Originally Posted by paddylaz
And the award for most useless press conference goes to.........


I mean, really? Was that worth the razzmatazz with the prime minister flying in?

The way he sounded, it was almost like a closure to the investigation. Shouldn't this confirmation be the start? He didn't even answer questions.....
You would not expect the prime minister to answer questions on a highly technical investigation. The technical questions will be answered at tomorrow's presser by people close to the investigation, I imagine.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:15
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@opendoor

Sliderafts dont have elts. The plane has 2, one in the fron at L1 and one at the aft. They are to be removed by the crew in emergency. They do start transmitting when hit t he water but for only 50hrs.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:16
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I am curious about the technical details of this further INMARSAT ping analysis.
As are we all. I doubt the true explanation has anything to do with Inmarsat.

Most likely (to me) is that another satellite also received the pings, and this allowed them to eliminate the north and to dramatically narrow the southern search area.

The posturing has been very positive for quite a few days. A fairly significant announcement from Aust PM to Malaysian PM based on a couple of grainy images? I don't think so.

They diverted that Norwegian car carrier several days before they announced the first satellite images of debris. And then a large multinational effort with aircraft from 5-6 countries focussed on this (relatively) small area.

They also confirmed that the initial debris had been subject to corroboration by other satellites.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:19
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Important step by pm. It's a declaration that rescue phase is over and now recovery phase is in effect. In economic terms, during the recovery phase the Malaysian government/ MAS picks up the tab in cost.... All the fuel for those planes and ships plus operating cost. So malasian tax payers paying for this I guess
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:20
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Anyone know if the Norwegian car carrier is still on station? Or is it out of the new search area?
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:20
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So what is this really based on? Seems circumstantial at best. There has to be more concrete evidence than this. If I was a family member, I'd be unimpressed.
It's new news. They'd been pilloried for possibly keeping info to themselves, now they're copping it for relaying new information.

By definition, unless / until the airframe / parts thereof / recorders (ie. "concrete evidence") are found, any conclusion will be circumstantial.

Is it too much to expect that British satellite company Inmarsat and/or the UK's Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) now make themselves available for a news conference to explain exactly what data they have, how they analyzed it and what conclusions they reached?

So far we only have third-hand reports of what Inmarsat has or doesn't have.
AAIB and Inmarsat are not running the investigation. News should be released by those who are. What you're saying is, for example, that any metallurgist who concludes something after looking at a bit of twisted metal, should jump on Twitbook and start babbling about it, possibly confusing everyone in the process. Quite frankly AMSA and Tony Abbott should arguably keep quiet (although their comments have been guarded).
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 14:22
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And the award for most useless press conference goes to.........


I mean, really? Was that worth the razzmatazz with the prime minister flying in?

The way he sounded, it was almost like a closure to the investigation. Shouldn't this confirmation be the start? He didn't even answer questions.....
FFS. Can you even hear yourself? The man just told 239 families that their loved ones are dead. All hope is gone. The PM delivered this dreadful message with sensitivity and emotion. Of course there were no questions.

This is not some kind of online puzzle. This is real. And for the husbands, wives, children, mothers and fathers of those lost - their life has just been ruined.
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