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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:10
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I'd put the emphasis on the "middle of an ocean" that just happens to be "off the west coast of Australia by 2000+ kms" !
Exactly, Australia is only involved simply because there is no one any closer!
Australia has one of the largest search and rescue regions of any country.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:12
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FDR Acoustic beacon range?

Any Navy boys or girls have any idea on receivable range for submerged FDR's
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:13
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True that the ABC24 and other Live AU TV news streams do not work now.
After checking a few alternatives, best so far seems to be LIVE from Austl parliament
(where PM made latest announcement)
showing now w/w on
Australia's Public Affairs Channel | A-PAC
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:17
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Deep part of the ocean?
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:17
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Hoping they have found something. At least some closure for the relatives.

I suspect this is a real development. If so, protocol would be to let Malaysia know before public announcement. Any word on a press conference in KL?

If it has been found, I suspect help from various undisclosed sources. There is an obvious need to keep details and capabilities undisclosed. But there is also a need for governments to send a message that "you will not be able to get away with that" - in order to help protect people in the future. So there is a need to find a balance between these at times conflicting needs.

Boeing would have wanted this found for obvious reasons. And Boeing is a significant player for both government and defence.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:23
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" If so, protocol would be to let Malaysia know before public announcement. Any word on a press conference in KL?""


Our PM called the Malaysian PM before announcing in Parliament hat something was found.


"I suspect help from various undisclosed sources. There is an obvious need to keep details and capabilities undisclosed."

All the PM said was from Satellite imagery. I doubt much else will come out unless whose ever satellite it is says so.

Suggest wait until the AMSA news conference in 10 minutes, then speculate further if you wish.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:24
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RE: "I suspect this is a real development. If so, protocol would be to let Malaysia know before public announcement. Any word on a press conference in KL?"

Australian PM Abbott also stated he informed Malaysian PM about latest development.

UPD:
500N post was first, this confirms.
Austl PressConf (John Young, AMSA) started, regular CNN covering it
LOL for me, was watching Anderson Cooper CNN (11PM Live NY time)
when they broke in with this, meaning it was NOT live at 11.

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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:25
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FYI, the two objects HAVE been identified by AMSA, just no one has said what they are.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:25
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Has Australia found the wreckage?

Objects found in Malaysia Airlines search

Two objects possibly related to the search for a missing Malaysia Airlines plane have been identified, Prime Minister Tony Abbott says

"The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has received information based on satellite information of objects possibly related to the search," he said before question time.

"Following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified."

The prime minister said an Australian airforce Orion had been diverted to locate the objects and is expected to arrive in the area shortly.

But he warned against drawing any premature conclusions or hopes on the search.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:28
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Poseidon a/c on scene too, apparently.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:30
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LIVE FEED Video: Two objects identified in MH370 search
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:32
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The actual ditching or crash location would be hundreds of miles away from the debris location.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:36
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How will they confirm anything with a fly past? Isn't it likely they'll need people in the water in which case it'll be a long time before we hear anything.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:37
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Largest image assessed is "24 metres".
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:37
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Two satellites have been re tasked to take High Res photos.

They are throwing one hell of a lot of aircraft to this as well as a warship.

One aircraft over location, other aircraft arriving in a staggered timeline from 4.00pm, then about 6.00pm and 8.00pm.

Civvy ship being diverted.


Largest object is 24 metres. 2nd one smaller than that.
Plus other objects in water in the vicinity.
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Largest object stated to be 24 metres in size.

Weather in area poor for aerial search.
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Largest object assessed at 24m in size per AMSA briefing. The AP-3C Orions have sonar buoys that can be dropped to locate black boxes.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:38
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Live feed KTLA

Two Objects Found in Search for Missing Malaysia Flight: Australian PM Reports | KTLA 5
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:41
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The AP-3C Orions have sonar buoys that can be dropped to locate black boxes.
I got the idea from an earlier Ozmate news conference that the sonobuoys on the AP-3C, like the AF 447 submarine, couldn't pick up the ultrasound from the boxes.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:41
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Water there is several thousand meters deep and after drifting, wreckage on the surface is likely a long way from recorders. What's the range of those sonar detectors ?
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