Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

[deScally]

Hypoxia as a way to get compliant pax and cabin crew?

I suppose one way to make passengers and cabin crew compliant with any kind of nefarious activity on the flight deck would be to depressurize the aircraft slowly while the flight crew put on O2 masks. If everyone in the back has blacked out from hypoxia then there wouldn't be much resistance emanating from the cabin. Could this work?

[porterhouse]

Actually, an electrical fire would explain all of those things

I disagree strongly.
All pilots want to get on the ground as soon as possible if there is ANY fire aboard. Even ditching in the ocean is better than flying with a raging fire. Nobody in his right mind would be wondering endlessly in the airspace in a flight to nowhere for over an hour with a fire. Also somebody would be reporting this fire, MAYDAY, etc. if aircraft was flyable (say Swissair 111 scenario).

[chris weston]

GMM 3521

Yes

At a given point in time the fuel mass spec profiles are likely to be different and time/date unique unless they're sharing refinery batch output and simply using differently badged fueling rigs over a prolonged period of time (yes yes we can debate the minimum time) - which will be on record.

[brika]

Pax mobiles

@ lapp 3276

Quote: The phone does not even have to be on. Just the battery installed.
Wrong, phones off or in airplane mode do not make any network activity whatsoever.

Partly right because those who can, apparently can, get data, see

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...location.shtml

[Golf-Mike-Mike]

Originally Posted by dmba

Busted! Flight Radar Caught Changing Flight Path of Malaysia Flight 370! - YouTube[/url

I have the dubious honour of being the pilot (and FR24 user) who notified the journal Conscious Life News of this tasteless hoax on Monday (10Mar) about the date change and different registration numbers (9M-MRO to 9M-MRQ). They took down the second erroneous video within an hour but I guess it had already gone viral elsewhere by then, certainly to Facebook where I first saw it

[sadly it's not gone from YouTube ]

[dmba]

I have the dubious honour of being the pilot (and FR24 user) who notified the journal Conscious Life News of this tasteless hoax on Monday (10Mar) about the date change and different registration numbers (9M-MRO to 9M-MRQ). They took down the second erroneous video within an hour but I guess it had already gone viral elsewhere by then, certainly to Facebook where I first saw it

Please contact them again

[FE Hoppy]

gramsoft


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45000 is no deal
777 cannot go that high

I think you are confusing what it's certified to do and what it is capable of doing.

[Golf-Sierra]

The press conference speaker today was quick to dismiss the jet fuel slick as not from MH370, but he did say it was jet fuel. Do the different suppliers (BP, Shell, Total, ...) have different chemical signatures then? Presume they know what MH370 took on board so have eliminated what they found in the slick.

Which could be explained by a mid-air collision, most likely with a drone of some sort. The impact led to damage of the 777, most likely took out various antennas, perhaps debris damaged the cockpit, but the initial impact did not bring the plane down. It continued to fly for some time and eventually fell into the ocean.

How otherwise do you explain a patch of jet fuel on the ocean, which by coincidence is near the LKP of the malaysian flight? Are these jet fuel patches common on the ocean in that part of the world?

[Wiggins61]

I have a real problem with there being a large jet fuel slick in the area were the aircraft was initially lost from ATC radar and this was not associated? Come on! This is all nonsense. Too many cultures, languages and levels of ability involved.

[LASJayhawk]

The fuel could be from a leaking tanker ( air to air or just a boat ) maybe somebody dumped fuel 2 weeks ago?

There are different grades of "jet fuel"

[mickjoebill]

Not the first time that ACARS data says plane is still flying AFTER it has crashed?

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4705...ter-crash.html

[xcitation]

My limited understanding is that commercial aviation fuel is basically similar to JP4 and military currently use JP8. So to some extent I expect that fuel could be traced.
I agree that it is a bizarre coincidence to find jet fuel close to LKP and a witnessed fireball. However with all the false leads, misinformation, obfuscation who knows.

[porterhouse]

I agree that it is a bizarre coincidence to find jet fuel close

Agree but on the other hand to find an oil slick with absolutely no trace of aircraft, no floating debris, no ladies purses, no seat cushions, nothing, makes it likely this spill has no connection with the catastrophe.

[PEHowland]

Some of the military radar facilities (particularly India's) are likely to have over-the-horizon capability, i.e. they would be able to spot aircraft over a range of perhaps more than 1,000nm, although with rather degraded accuracy.

Nonsense. Why post gibberish like this?

[sevickej1]

Posted because in some conditions it is true.

[LiveryMan]

Someone on another board asked if it were possible that some electrical catastrophe may have reset the FMS to an earlier flight plan. Hence the possibility of a turn westard and following waypoints like any normal flight.

This particular 777 is known to have flown to westbound destinations before the flight it disappeared on.

So, question to 777 jockeys here: Does the 777 FMS (or any for that fact) store any previous flight plans up to a certain amount? Or is a flight plan gone once you wipe it and put the next plan in the following day say?

Disclaimer: I am not supporting the theory, but it got me curious as to how much the FMS remembers from previous flights

[hillwalker2004]

'The Plane that Vanished' just finished airing on Channel 5.

The presenter at the end asked each contributor what they thought was the most likely reason. The 'Security Expert' responded by saying it was probably a cyber attack...

Where do they get these people from?

[FIRESYSOK]

Where do they get these people from?

Right here.

[olasek]

Does the 777 FMS (or any for that fact) store any previous flight plans up to a certain amount?

I fail to see relevance of this question.
FMS can store many flight plans for easy retrieval and loading.
But it takes quite a few key strokes to load a new flight plan and 'activate it'. FMS is not going all of a sudden to start flying some flight plan from its database.

[mickjoebill]

Which could be explained by a mid-air collision, most likely with a drone of some sort. The impact led to damage of the 777, most likely took out various antennas, perhaps debris damaged the cockpit, but the initial impact did not bring the plane down. It continued to fly for some time and eventually fell into the ocean.

Agree and it could have been the drone that was identified on radar that was heading west whilst the 777 continued east unnoticed.
Authenticity of ACARS data can be challenged as per 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
Jet fuel on surface was dumped (by accomplices) to create red herring, only they were not clued up on the chemical signatures of different brands.
An eyewitness of an aircraft crash from 200 kms away would probably be a world first, what was the furthest distance anyone observed the Space Shuttle Challenger exploding at 65000ft?

These theories are as easy to discredit as they are to create...after a week of international creative problem solving there is a dustbin fill of quasi facts and fanciful theories circulating the garbage web to keep the Mythbusters team busy forever.