Looks like Lion Air bent another one.
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From Flight Global - Holy *&#$ did they screw this landing up or what!!!
How are they still flying? Good thing they have tons of 737's on order. They are going to need them. I would not want to be their insurance company!
Lion Air 737 bounced five times in landing accident: NTSC
By: Ellis Taylor Flight Global
Singapore
A Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER suffered significant damage as a result of a botched landing at Surabaya’s Juanda airport on 1 February, where the aircraft bounced five times before coming to a stop.
The aircraft, registered PK-LFH, was operating flight JT361 from Sepinggan International airport and was landing on Juanda’s runway 28 at 17:19 local time.
A preliminary report from Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC) reveals that the aircraft bounced five times while landing, with the final touchdown resulting in a force of 3.87Gs.
The report states that an inspection of the 737 found that the nose wheel hub was broken, one main tyre deflated and the tailskid was also damaged. In addition, there was wrinkling to right and left sides of the fuselage, aft of the wing-body join.
As a result of the accident, two passengers suffered serious injuries and three others minor injuries that were treated at a local clinic. All 225 passengers and crew were able to disembark the aircraft with assistance from ground staff.
The report states that the co-pilot was flying the aircraft during the landing, with the captain acting as the pilot monitoring. Neither pilot had received bounced landing recovery or rejected landing training, the NTSC found.
The NTSC also found that an entry in the aircraft’s maintenance log from 31 January indicated that corrective action on the elevator control unit was conducted after pilots reported that the movement felt light with the hydraulic pump was on.
Although it did not report any findings or safety actions, the NTSC issued recommendations to Lion that it review bounced landing recovery and rejected landing training exercises, crew pairing standards and elevator control issues on other aircraft in its fleet.
No indication has been given for when the NTSC plans to issue its final report into the accident.
By: Ellis Taylor Flight Global
Singapore
A Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER suffered significant damage as a result of a botched landing at Surabaya’s Juanda airport on 1 February, where the aircraft bounced five times before coming to a stop.
The aircraft, registered PK-LFH, was operating flight JT361 from Sepinggan International airport and was landing on Juanda’s runway 28 at 17:19 local time.
A preliminary report from Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC) reveals that the aircraft bounced five times while landing, with the final touchdown resulting in a force of 3.87Gs.
The report states that an inspection of the 737 found that the nose wheel hub was broken, one main tyre deflated and the tailskid was also damaged. In addition, there was wrinkling to right and left sides of the fuselage, aft of the wing-body join.
As a result of the accident, two passengers suffered serious injuries and three others minor injuries that were treated at a local clinic. All 225 passengers and crew were able to disembark the aircraft with assistance from ground staff.
The report states that the co-pilot was flying the aircraft during the landing, with the captain acting as the pilot monitoring. Neither pilot had received bounced landing recovery or rejected landing training, the NTSC found.
The NTSC also found that an entry in the aircraft’s maintenance log from 31 January indicated that corrective action on the elevator control unit was conducted after pilots reported that the movement felt light with the hydraulic pump was on.
Although it did not report any findings or safety actions, the NTSC issued recommendations to Lion that it review bounced landing recovery and rejected landing training exercises, crew pairing standards and elevator control issues on other aircraft in its fleet.
No indication has been given for when the NTSC plans to issue its final report into the accident.
Here's the link to the preliminary report on this incident.
http://www.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_av...t%20PK-DAL.pdf
Strange to read the license type for the co-pilot (and pilot flying) was given, not as 'CPL' or 'ATPL', but as '3443263' . And no, that's not the license number as Indonesian licenses only have 4 digits. So what kind of license is that?
Another strange observation is the expiry date of the co-pilot's instrument rating. It's not listed there at all. Begs the question why they have left this information out of the preliminary report, where as the captain's details are complete? And I take it, that his age, listed as '24 hours', is a typo.
http://www.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_av...t%20PK-DAL.pdf
Strange to read the license type for the co-pilot (and pilot flying) was given, not as 'CPL' or 'ATPL', but as '3443263' . And no, that's not the license number as Indonesian licenses only have 4 digits. So what kind of license is that?
Another strange observation is the expiry date of the co-pilot's instrument rating. It's not listed there at all. Begs the question why they have left this information out of the preliminary report, where as the captain's details are complete? And I take it, that his age, listed as '24 hours', is a typo.
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Have you ever travelled on an Indonesian ferry?
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I have just returned from a month in Indonesia. My trip included four Garuda fights and one with Lion, Wings and Air Asia. All on time and in new aircraft.
I also had two ferry trips. The first one a "charter". This turned out to be a 95ton wooden tub with no seats and only a tarp for cover. I was expecting the boat to be intercepted by the Australian coast guard looking for illegals. The second was with Pelni, the government owned shipping line. It arrived ten hours late. This was so overcrowded that even the life rafts were occupied. We had a first class cabin. After a while I ventured out. The corridors, stairs and decks were full of people. The doors on our deck were locked, just as well as to have opened them would have ment moving boxes piled to the roof.
Say all you want about Indonesian airlines but they are the only way to travel in "safety".
I have just returned from a month in Indonesia. My trip included four Garuda fights and one with Lion, Wings and Air Asia. All on time and in new aircraft.
I also had two ferry trips. The first one a "charter". This turned out to be a 95ton wooden tub with no seats and only a tarp for cover. I was expecting the boat to be intercepted by the Australian coast guard looking for illegals. The second was with Pelni, the government owned shipping line. It arrived ten hours late. This was so overcrowded that even the life rafts were occupied. We had a first class cabin. After a while I ventured out. The corridors, stairs and decks were full of people. The doors on our deck were locked, just as well as to have opened them would have ment moving boxes piled to the roof.
Say all you want about Indonesian airlines but they are the only way to travel in "safety".
smilingmonkey,
He may have been on a validation of his foreign licence rather than a DGCA issued one. They are no longer issuing Indonesian licences to foreign pilots.
He may have been on a validation of his foreign licence rather than a DGCA issued one. They are no longer issuing Indonesian licences to foreign pilots.
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Looks like a FAA pilot certificate number, which have 7 digits. Yes it's true, Indonesian DGCA no longer issues Indonesian pilot licenses to non-Indonesian citizens, only validations. Just the opposite from Malaysia, where all expat pilots must get the Malaysian pilot's license, no more validation! Go figure!
