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[Sarcasm]At 1845Z a westbound LOT Polish Airlines Boeing 787-8 (SP-LRC / LOT41) from Warsaw, Poland (EPWA) to Toronto, ON (CYYZ) declared a medical emergency at position 5643N05630W. Requested and received clearance direct to Goose Bay, NL (CYYR). The aircraft landed 1937Z.
Not sure why this one hasn't made the World's media. It seems the Dreamliner is making Passengers ill[/Sarcasm]
Not sure why this one hasn't made the World's media. It seems the Dreamliner is making Passengers ill[/Sarcasm]
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Ironbutt, it was scheduled to fly the QTR10 to MUC, I am told.
Aircraft change caused 1 hr delay to flight.
An event did happen, by all accounts on A7-BCB.
Looking on FR24, which I appreciate is not failsafe, the Qatar 787 fleet seems to be flying with the exception of 'BCB.
Aircraft change caused 1 hr delay to flight.
An event did happen, by all accounts on A7-BCB.
Looking on FR24, which I appreciate is not failsafe, the Qatar 787 fleet seems to be flying with the exception of 'BCB.
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Check flightradar.
Strange that BCA, BCC, BCD, BCL and BCK (the rest of the QR 787) fleet are flying but BCB isn't.
I don't think BCB will be back in the air for a while.
Is anyone surprised that QR are keeping a lid on this, particularly if it turns out to be a maintenance issue.
Strange that BCA, BCC, BCD, BCL and BCK (the rest of the QR 787) fleet are flying but BCB isn't.
I don't think BCB will be back in the air for a while.
Is anyone surprised that QR are keeping a lid on this, particularly if it turns out to be a maintenance issue.
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New airliners have teething problems, then other problems while in service. Interesting to learn that 787 is apparently still not statistically as trouble-prone as A380.
However, apart from some engine and windshield problems, 787 seems to have had a lot which all seem to relate to the electrical system, including batteries, ELT, Toilets, Galley, Brakes, Air Con, and now possibly Wing Flap. With so much of the plane controlled by and reliant on electrics this concerns me more than the sum of all the teething and operational problems.
However, apart from some engine and windshield problems, 787 seems to have had a lot which all seem to relate to the electrical system, including batteries, ELT, Toilets, Galley, Brakes, Air Con, and now possibly Wing Flap. With so much of the plane controlled by and reliant on electrics this concerns me more than the sum of all the teething and operational problems.
joyride, you forgot at least two incidents of landing gear deployment difficulty.
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...and suspected fuel pump problem at Boston. Items like brakes and toilets, seem to be so different, but they all have the electric system in common, possibly in combination with higher humidity.
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Not to nitpick, but the battery fires were more than a teething problem. You can argue that Boeing have been unlucky in the last few days, but perhaps not. Like the A380 uncontained engine failure, a little less luck and it could have been so much worse. That said, I think a lot of the A380 early issues were also related to electrical issues. Electrical and electronic systems are so complex on modern aircraft they are bound to be the source of many issues. The complexity of the wiring was also one of the main things that allegedly delayed the A380. It will be interesting to watch the introduction of A350 as a comparison.
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Interesting name "Fryliner". In testing the 787 was known as the "Rainliner" by the testing staff. This was due to the amount of condensation inside the fuselage. Boeing has "fixed" this but aluminium wiring and water do not go well together... I wonder.....
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These stats in AvWeek.....wasn't the 787 grounded for three months during its first 18 months of service? How many x,ooo's of sectors were cancelled as a result - that would skew the stats a bit!
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New airliners have teething problems, then other problems while in service. Interesting to learn that 787 is apparently still not statistically as trouble-prone as A380..
However, apart from some engine and windshield problems, 787 seems to have had a lot which all seem to relate to the electrical system, including batteries, ELT, Toilets, Galley, Brakes, Air Con, and now possibly Wing Flap. With so much of the plane controlled by and reliant on electrics this concerns me more than the sum of all the teething and operational problems.
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Qatar 787 smoke?
Yes, what is the source of this report of 787 smoke? I have searched the net and cannot find any other report other than in this forum. Very interested though....
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Anyone know the reg of the 787 involved in this incident...
Qatar 787 Electrical problem on Delivery Flight
Is it the same one?
Qatar 787 Electrical problem on Delivery Flight
Is it the same one?
Now, it is not that the Middle East is known for an exceptionally free press or openness when it comes to such things, but the lack of other hints on other sites is to be noted nevertheless. If there was indeed another case of smoke emanating from the 787, one would think that at least the FAA would come up with an AD or mandatory inspection after a while.
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Ut Sementem Feeceris
At least the 787's problems appear to be grouped around the electrical systems and installation.
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Yes - thank goodness it isn't anything major on an aircraft with 4 times the
electrical demand of conventional airliner!
Yup, nothing major, nothing to see here.....
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I'd take an engine issue any day over electrical ones
On a twin? Are you crazy?
I'd take an engine issue any day over electrical ones
On a twin? Are you crazy?
Elec problems are weird, not really trainable since the "known" failure modes are designed out / mitigated, and in many contexts lead to smoke / fire / death.
Think I'll take the EO thanks
