Asiana flight crash at San Francisco
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If that was a Liveatc.net recording then remember it will be excerpts of numerous frequencies at SFO so the overlaps are usually when the site is skipping frequencies.
The online atc sites provide some useful information but not the full picture as they are cramming too much info into one stream.
If that was a Liveatc.net recording then remember it will be excerpts of numerous frequencies at SFO so the overlaps are usually when the site is skipping frequencies.
The online atc sites provide some useful information but not the full picture as they are cramming too much info into one stream.
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Above is another ATC link.
Asiana Airlines plane crashes at San Francisco airport leaving two dead | News.com.au
This link reports 2 dead, 60 missing.
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Here is an excellent onboard report..
Passenger: 'We just jumped off' plane - CNN.com Video
There were several people ejected, presumably through the broken rear bulkhead.
Passenger: 'We just jumped off' plane - CNN.com Video
There were several people ejected, presumably through the broken rear bulkhead.
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I noticed this same issue when watching the live footage of the accident. I would imagine the 777 has some sort of split-flap protection and the other wing flaps were lost in the follow-on cluster-f*#%#ed roll-out. Maybe a 777 pilot here could add his thoughts.
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The passenger in this interview indicates bad performance by first respondents. He sounds pretty credible. Apparently some passengers got thrown off, response was not in a hurry to find and collect them. Bad marks for SFO. Twenty-thirty minutes reaction time to get the injured cannot be blamed on the pilots who at least got the plane on the ground.
Passenger: 'We just jumped off' plane - CNN.com Video
Passenger: 'We just jumped off' plane - CNN.com Video
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I understand Clear Prop. But in that situation, it becomes time critical to get the pax out. Now.
Didn't mean to sound snarky, but the local controller (American term) will send the cfr crews if you ask for them or not. He stayed cool, while coordinating the go arounds, as he should.
But in the aftermath of going through all that, I don't blame the f/o or cappy for trying to call the tower either. There can't be a worse feeling than that.
Didn't mean to sound snarky, but the local controller (American term) will send the cfr crews if you ask for them or not. He stayed cool, while coordinating the go arounds, as he should.
But in the aftermath of going through all that, I don't blame the f/o or cappy for trying to call the tower either. There can't be a worse feeling than that.
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Galaxy,
I look forward to reading that part of the NTSB report which deals with the evacuation and response. As far as I'm concerned, whatever their faults, the pilots at least got the plane down in a survivable landing.Looking at those images of the airframe, one wonders exactly what happened *after* the landing.
I look forward to reading that part of the NTSB report which deals with the evacuation and response. As far as I'm concerned, whatever their faults, the pilots at least got the plane down in a survivable landing.Looking at those images of the airframe, one wonders exactly what happened *after* the landing.
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Edmund,
You're killing' me...."the pilots got the plane down to a survivable landing"? Really? Like the the plane was trying to kill them, but they managed to wrestle the beast to a survivable landing.
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You can't land a "wide body" without an outside glide path? Maybe, I'm old school, but it, VMC, this shouldn't be brain surgery.
You're killing' me...."the pilots got the plane down to a survivable landing"? Really? Like the the plane was trying to kill them, but they managed to wrestle the beast to a survivable landing.
skol
You can't land a "wide body" without an outside glide path? Maybe, I'm old school, but it, VMC, this shouldn't be brain surgery.
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This is the most detailed footage I can find - it indicates a very heavy impact at or close to the rock wall with extensive debris immediately occurring
Close Up) Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 Crashes On Landing At San Francisco Airport July 6 2013 - YouTube
Close Up) Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 Crashes On Landing At San Francisco Airport July 6 2013 - YouTube
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Why did fuselage burn and not wing fuel tanks? Both engines ripped off as well as tail. Looks like a tail strike right on the sea wall... It almost makes you wonder if they flat ran out of fuel on approach.
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My condolences to the family's concerned this is a horrible accident
Lets not jump to conclusions and wait for the NTSB and FAA report on this.
At least the accident will be investigated in the USA and some light will come from the investigation unlike the Asiana Cargo 744 Jeju island crash a few years back which was covered up.
Lets not jump to conclusions and wait for the NTSB and FAA report on this.
At least the accident will be investigated in the USA and some light will come from the investigation unlike the Asiana Cargo 744 Jeju island crash a few years back which was covered up.