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Old 25th Dec 2012, 05:22   #1 (permalink)
 
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Air Bagan Crash ???

any updates on what happened with Air bagan's F100 today ? I heard that they have crashed somehwere in Burma and two people died ???
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 05:40   #2 (permalink)
 
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Here's a link: Jet crash lands: 2 dead, including 11-yr old - Emirates 24/7
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 08:15   #3 (permalink)
 
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Myanmar plane crash kills child, rider | News.com.au

A FLIGHT packed with Christmas tourists has crash-landed on a road in central Myanmar (Burma), killing two people and injuring 11.
Four foreigners were among the injured, state television reported on Tuesday. The airline said the injured were American, British and Korean.
The fatalities included an 11-year-old passenger believed to be a Myanmar citizen and a man riding a motorcycle on the road where the plane came down, state TV said.
The Air Bagan flight was carrying 63 passengers, including 51 foreigners, and six crew members.
It was flying from the city of Mandalay to Heho airport in Shan State, the gateway to a popular tourist destination, Inle Lake, Air Bagan said in a brief statement on its Facebook page.
The airline described the incident as an "emergency landing".
Authorities gave a different and more dramatic account, saying the pilot mistook the road for a runway due to bad weather.
"While descending, the plane mistakenly landed ... due to fog beside the runway," state television reported. It said the aircraft made a hard landing on a road and then came to a stop in a nearby rice paddy field.
"The rear end of the plane broke and caught fire," state TV said, carrying a statement posted on Deputy Information Minister Ye Htut's Facebook page.
Rescuers brought the fire under control about 45 minutes later, he said.
Witnesses said smoke filled the plane when it hit the ground and was still rising from the plane's badly charred wreckage hours later.
Airport officials in Heho said that injured passengers were taken to a hospital in the nearby city of Taunggyi for treatment.
Air Bagan is one of five private airlines that fly domestic routes in Myanmar. It is a unit of Htoo Trading Company, which is owned by business tycoon Tay Za.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 08:22   #4 (permalink)
 
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Air Bagan Fokker F100 crash in Myanmar city - Burma (Photos included)























Jet crash lands: 2 dead, including 11-yr old

A Myanmar plane carrying 65 passengers including foreign tourists crash-landed in eastern Shan state on Tuesday, leaving two people dead and 11 others injured, the airline and officials said. Air Bagan said the aircraft, an ageing Fokker-100, was forced to make an emergency landing two miles (three kilometres) from Heho airport, which is the gateway to the popular tourist destination of Inle Lake.
"One passenger who was missing was found dead inside the plane. We are still trying to identify who the dead passenger is," the carrier announced in a statement posted on its Facebook page.
The victim was an 11-year-old child, according to the information ministry, which added that four foreigners were among those hurt in the accident.
Another person was killed when the plane struck a motorbike on a road near the airport, it said.
The exact circumstances of the incident were not immediately clear, but a government official said a fire was reported in one of the engines as it approached Heho airport at around 9 am (0230 GMT).
"Because of the emergency landing near the airport, the plane broke up in the middle," the official told AFP on condition of anonymity, adding that passengers were evacuated.
A local tour guide waiting at the airport for passengers on the Air Bagan flight to arrive said the fire had "burnt almost the whole plane".
Air Bagan spokesman Ye Min Oo said the two pilots among the injured were taken to hospital, although their condition was not immediately known.
"The cause of the accident is not clear yet. Only the pilots will know the cause, but we can't contact them yet as they have been sent to hospital," he said.
Air Bagan is one of several domestic carriers seeking to profit from a tourist boom in Myanmar as it emerges from decades of military rule. It is owned by Tay Za, a tycoon known for his close links to the former junta.
The airline operates two Fokker 100 jets, which are no longer manufactured.
Long isolated from the world under decades of junta rule, the Southeast Asian nation has seen an influx of tourists and business travellers in recent months following a raft of political reforms.
The surge in demand for air travel has stretched Myanmar's aviation infrastructure, in particular in remote airports.
Yangon International Airport, the country's main terminal, is set to exceed its limit of 2.7 million passengers this year and the Department of Civil Aviation warned in July it needs urgent upgrading.

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Old 25th Dec 2012, 08:51   #5 (permalink)
 
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Looking at those pictures it is a miracle that anybody survived.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 08:58   #6 (permalink)
 
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Not really post landing fire will do that the wreackage looks pretty much undisrupted. Looks at first glance like a text book forced landing.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 09:02   #7 (permalink)
 
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Reported as attempt to land in foggy conditions.
Heho Airport is equipped with a NDB as the only radio aid.
11 in hospital including both pilots, both locals.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 09:28   #8 (permalink)
 
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Local media has reports of locals saying an engine was observed on fire before landing, the impact seems parallel to the airport with an offset of two miles or so.
Two dead, one local guide (passenger), one motorcyclist who got hit by the plane.
Nine passengers, two crew injured, total 71 pax on board, 51 of them being foreigners.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 11:57   #9 (permalink)
 
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reports of locals saying an engine was observed on fire before landing
This is said very often by "locals", but seldom true.....

Maybe it has to do with the speed of sound, e.g. fire on impact is seen before the sound of impact....


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Old 25th Dec 2012, 16:48   #10 (permalink)
 
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Can't comment on the carrier or the equipment but it is refreshing to see this open, honest approach to PR.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 17:28   #11 (permalink)
 
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And their website isn't bad either.

Even taking the post crash fire into account, I think they were pretty lucky. Tail section separated, no wings visible, the final second must have been a pretty rough ride though...
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 17:46   #12 (permalink)
 
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still...one more point up for No Crew in cockpit !


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Old 25th Dec 2012, 19:41   #13 (permalink)
 
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Rh engine has had some form of uncontained failure by the looks of it. Tr missing. Post crash maybe?

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Old 25th Dec 2012, 19:46   #14 (permalink)
 
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NDB approach in fog - the classical recipe for disaster. Having engine fire at the same time is extremely unlikely.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 19:46   #15 (permalink)
 
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Rh engine has had some form of uncontained failure by the looks of it. Tr missing. Post crash maybe?
If by Tr you mean Thrust Reverser, no such thing on the Fokkerjet.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 20:13   #16 (permalink)
 
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i find it utterly miraculous that they put it down on scrubland and managed to get away with so few deaths.... sure it will all come out in the investigation, but low vis approaches will always be a hazard...

will these jets have been fitted with egpws/gpws at all?
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 21:26   #17 (permalink)
 
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If by Tr you mean Thrust Reverser, no such thing on the Fokkerjet.
Are you sure?

FOKKER 100 GENERAL.

Looks like a T/R in the third picture posted above in this thread.

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Old 25th Dec 2012, 21:27   #18 (permalink)
 
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Looks at first glance like a text book forced landing.
or possibly they missed the runway and crashed a servicable aircraft...? Think Polish presidential flight or Britannia at Girona. Difficult landings in bad weather,

The GPWS is likely to be a primitive one with warnings based on terrain closure rate rather than a database. So if they were coming down at 700 fpm on an NDB approach to a runway there would be no warning if they went for a road instead.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 21:38   #19 (permalink)
 
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Think you got that wrong Airbubba.

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The Fokker 100 crashed shortly after take-off from Congonhas/São Paulo International Airport, São Paulo, Brazil, striking an apartment building and several houses. The crash was attributed to the uncommanded deployment of a faulty thrust-reverser on the right engine shortly after take-off.
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 22:06   #20 (permalink)
 
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No Thrust Reverser @ Fk100....



Hummmm, i dont think so...

Maybe Oceancrosser mistaken it with BAE146/ARJ.

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