A330 AIR BERLIN INCIDENT IN HKT
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A330 AIR BERLIN INCIDENT IN HKT
At HKT Airport on 20-Dec-12, ~2130LT, Air Berlin A330 Departure from HKT, then request air turn back for Emergency landing cause Engine 1 fire!.
A/C made a hard landing and 3 of main wheels burst. AOT declare Runway closure due to unable to move a/c off the runway.
A/C made a hard landing and 3 of main wheels burst. AOT declare Runway closure due to unable to move a/c off the runway.
I'm not sure what the autopilot approval has to do with this.
last I checked pilots were trained to manually fly aircraft, or have the standards dropped so low that the a/p has to be used for everything.
last I checked pilots were trained to manually fly aircraft, or have the standards dropped so low that the a/p has to be used for everything.
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" Last I checked pilots were trained to manually fly aircraft, or have the standards dropped so low that the a/p has to be used for everything. "
Unfortunately, Gtseraf, seems they have in many cases. Check the thread on the temorary loss of control because the captain didn't have an operable FD.....
Unfortunately, Gtseraf, seems they have in many cases. Check the thread on the temorary loss of control because the captain didn't have an operable FD.....
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Our QRH A-333 says in the chapter "overweight landing":
"An overweight landing is authorized up to MTOW.
Automatic landing is certified up to Maximum Landing Weight (MLW). Autoland flight tests have, however, been successful up to 229 tons.
Depending on the situation (e.g. emergency or other) and provided that the runway is approved for automatic landing, the flight crew can decide to perform a autoland up to 229 tons."
In my opinion you have to have a good reason to conduct a AL with overweight - i think it wouldn't be good airmanship to try it on a CAT I ILS with an offset LOC...
"An overweight landing is authorized up to MTOW.
Automatic landing is certified up to Maximum Landing Weight (MLW). Autoland flight tests have, however, been successful up to 229 tons.
Depending on the situation (e.g. emergency or other) and provided that the runway is approved for automatic landing, the flight crew can decide to perform a autoland up to 229 tons."
In my opinion you have to have a good reason to conduct a AL with overweight - i think it wouldn't be good airmanship to try it on a CAT I ILS with an offset LOC...
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Can I run for the position of 'AvHerald poster' instead? 
Incident: Air Berlin A332 at Phuket on Dec 20th 2012, engine fire
Incident: Air Berlin A332 at Phuket on Dec 20th 2012, engine fire
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T&C are crap.mind you, but STILL no actual
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Tyres normally burst due to excess energy (heat) being applied to the brakes during deceleration after landing. Not purely by any overweight issues. A wind report (available to the investigation team) will assist in explaining any decelaration 'issues'. It may also give an indication as to why the crew took off from 27, and landed on 09. As the pax did not evacuate on the runway (but are reported to have used mobile stairs) an unextinguishable fire, requiring immediate landing, looks unlikely?
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Dear God; why would anyone in their right mind even attempt to do an autoland in these circumstances?
They didn't, so it's irrelevant!
They didn't, so it's irrelevant!