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Old 14th Oct 2012, 08:14   #1 (permalink)
 
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Corendon 737-800 catch fire in Turkey

737-800 from Corendon (?). Pax evacuated.

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 09:03   #2 (permalink)
 
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Corendon fire

Brand på turistplan i Antalya | Nyheter | Expressen | Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV

Google translation:

A fire broke out on an airplane with Norwegian tourists when it would start from Antalya in Turkey early on Sunday morning. Several people jumped from the plane's wings and injured.
A total of 27 people taken to hospital.
After the smoke and flames in the front of the plane opened the emergency exits. Frightened passengers jumped from the plane's wings and at least one person should have been taken to hospital with leg injuries, according to a witness for Norwegian Adressa.no.
Charter plane was en route from Antalya to Trondheim and Alesund. The airline Corendon Airlines says it was 189 passengers and a crew of seven people on board when the fire broke out.
According to the travel company Detur have 27 people taken to hospital.
One of those who were aboard the plane was Idar Green from Verdal. He saw the smoke from a cabinet in front of the plane and tells Dagbladet.no of panic among the passengers.
- They opened the emergency exits in the front and I opened the one over the wing. Then we started to get out, says Green.
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Passengers first stood still on the high wing, but when they found out how it got up flames from the aviation front, many chose to jump.
- Then people started getting worried and we jumped down. Many injured his leg, says Green to Dagbladet.no.
It is at 09 o'clock unclear how many are injured and how serious injuries they have.
Emergency services arrived quickly to the scene and passengers booked on replacement flights to Ålesund and Trondheim later in the morning.

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Brand på turistplan i Antalya | Nyheter | Aftonbladet

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 09:08   #3 (permalink)
 
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Corendon Airlines - 737-800.
Flight CAI 773 (Antalya - Trondheim, Norway)

From Norwegian newspaper "VG" (in Norwegian):

- Happened before leaving terminal
- 189 passengers
- Lots of smoke in cabin. Oxygen masks deployed
- 27 injuries (some jumping from the wing - breaking their legs)
- Smoke from cockpit-area. (Some reports say flames)

Quick response from AYT ground services.

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 09:10   #4 (permalink)
 
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In norwegian, but try google tranlation.
Fly med norske turister tok fyr på rullebanen - VG Nett
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 09:12   #5 (permalink)
 
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Captain got criticized by passengers for leaving the plane too early. And cc for evacuating passengers too late...

Btw, airlines do stink when it comes to communicative crisis management; nothing on the web!!!

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 11:03   #6 (permalink)
 
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Oxygen masks deployed
Really...?
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 11:14   #7 (permalink)
 
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SimCaptain,

Best to stick to the Sim nothing in Google Translate of the article you posted to say masks deployed. On the ground they would have to be deployed manually, and I doubt even Turkish crew are so unaware of Boeing procedures to imagine that filling the cabin full of chemically generated oxygen would be a good idea in a fire situation.

Fire in the cockpit, Hmnn. . . we have to be really careful about putting our cigarette stubs in waste bins sorry, couldn't resist. . .anyone who has worked for a Turkish company will understand.



Edited to say, a witness on the 2nd report that I also Google Translated claims masks deployed. . . . . for the sake of the crew, I hope not (or at least we can hope that they flew in the same Squadron as the Chief Pilot. . then all will be OK )

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 11:17   #8 (permalink)
 
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Btw, airlines do stink when it comes to communicative crisis management; nothing on the web!!!
What do you call this then? Or the links provided above, which include parts of emails sent from the airline to newspapers?
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 11:28   #9 (permalink)
 
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I am talking about organized communication crisis management. In a situation where all involved are going to get scrutinized by media, the public and all other stakeholders.
Most airlines have great operational crisis management but bad communication crisis management, with exceptions of course, like case SAS/Linate.
You can do all the operative crisis management great, but if you don´t communicate in a both emphatic and organized way, you will get butt kicked everywhere.
I don´t see the airline in this case being active at all...still nothing on their homepage, which of course what I meant, mentioning the web.

For the evacuation, SOP is lowering the flaps to 40 so pax can slide down to make evacuation easier, since no slides there, but maybe they had trouble with hydraulics. Keep seeing repeated info that oxygen masks were deployed in cabin, sounds very strange...

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 11:43   #10 (permalink)
 
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As eye witness reports trickle into Norwegian media, some claim that the members of the cabin crew as well as the pilots ran away from the aircraft with people still inside and standing on the wings.

If true, that's not good, or am I expecting too much?
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M 609, seems you could be right unfortunately, here are some comments from pax, google translate:

- It was scary. When we first saw smoke we stood up, but the flight attendants asked us to sit. Only when we actually saw flames , they left the plane immediately - before everyone else, she says.

- I was pretty far ahead of the plane, and saw that the door to the cockpit was closed. Suddenly door opened and the pilots running out of there, while thick smoke billowed out from the door. Then all disappeared, flight attendants as well, they just escaped from the plane, said a shaken Kveli Selvik to VG Nett.

Now, this is hearsay from panicked passengers so far, and has to be investigated, but it does´t sound good
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Charter aircraft catch fire in Turkey

@ Cptplaystation.. It would not suprise me if you would be very.. Very close the truth with your "Smoking..gun" lol
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Ah, so thats where Captain Schettino got another job then...
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Ah, so thats where Captain Schettino got another job then...
There are plenty of Schettinos, worldwide
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Given that we know very little of the incident and that, in the one photo on the Internet, (linked above) the fire truck has its snozzle penetrating the cockpit on the FO side I think criticising the crew based on confused media reports is harsh.

Fire in the cockpit seems a distinct possibility.
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I have no trouble with them exiting the cockpit, but if you can get back to the two front doors, you can also get to the cabin and make sure everyone gets out. If you are down with smoke or burns fine, no argument. But they where fit enough to run away.......

And the cabin crew where not in the cockpit

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 19:51   #17 (permalink)
 
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A fair amount of Monday morning quarterbacking on here with little in the way of verifiable facts to support these criticisms. What say we wait for at least some level of an investigation before we crucify anyone???
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 21:40   #18 (permalink)
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Oh - come on now...................
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 22:10   #19 (permalink)
 
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Indeed, quite neglecting for the cockpitcrew to leave a -with smoke filled- cockpit before al passengers were evacuated
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 23:33   #20 (permalink)
 
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In my outfit it is SOP for the Flt deck to exit via cockpit DV windows. & leave the Cabin Crew to get on with it. However capt takes charge Left side on the GND and f/o on right side.
Always wondered what the press would make of it.
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