Location: The 'Bat Cave' @ HLP in the Big Durian Indo
It's common with the media here , some of the names on the list are spelt incorrectly as well
Anyway from what I heard this evening they know where the crash site is and the crash is severe , so far nobody I know has been able to contact pax, if the weathers good they'll have helis there in the morning so I would expect an official announcement tomorrow once they have the facts.
What would cause a 3 year old demonstrator to crash with factory test pilots at the controls ? I keep thinking of that Airbus that flew into the trees years ago, finding some little unexpected 'got ya' in the fly by wire system software by flying around mountains perhaps ? ... also if you had to pick a spot in West Java for the worst most unpredictable weather it would have to be those mountains and valleys near Bogor.
All speculation , we'll get some more clues in the next few days and a final report 2 or 3 years from now
Here's what these particular mountains look like , covered in thick jungle
And now there is this from the New york times: As the Superjet entered production, the Russian television station NTV reported that 70 engineers at the manufacturing plant had obtained fake engineering diplomas by bribing a local technical college. Sukhoi said those employees were not directly involved in assembling the planes.
The latter I'm afraid. It's one of a gazillion possibilities which as I said we will not know the actual reasoning until a thorough investigation has been carried out. But based on past reports as @northerntomcat has specified in the last post there, it's a possibility. I sure hope that is not the case, but it wouldn't be the first time in aviation history.
I think that NY Times is just using this accident for political marketing against Russia. Maybe they just forgot to mention other companies involved in this project like Boeing, Alenia, Snecma... When accident happened only Sukhoi is to blame.
Lets wait for official statement and then we can judge. Right now we only have rumors and personal opinions without all facts. Personally i don't think that a sabotage or technical failure was cause of the accident. But as i said we will have to wait for more info.
Interesting how these threads about aviation catastrophes precede along relatively intelligently for about three pages, typically brief discussions between professionals, and then at about page four, the hysteria begins. The SLFs begin to chime in with their inept theorizing, the Microsofties ruminate about how they'd have handled the situation with their keyboards, the conspiracy theorists appear out of the aluminum... These threads have a definable half-life, and it begins to come apart at this point.
SLFs begin to chime in with their inept theorizing
My observation would be that the professionals need absolutely no help in this regard, based for example on the numerous AF447 threads. You did however forget the PPRuNe invariant, that within two pages any discussion turns into A vs B bashing. Hard to see how that will happen here but I'm sure it will anyway.