A Sukhoi superjet 100 is missing
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For reminder:
much more here:
The ivory tower
and here:
Control Tower Played a Role in Sukhoi Tragedy, finds Tempo Investigation | nasional | Tempo.co
I suppose that report will be released soon
The second demo flight is planned to last for 30 minutes. Before the plane took off, air controllers at Halim contacted ATC. They communicated closely: "Hello, approach request release, Mas. RA36801 to the Bogor Area in five minutes." The controller even joked, "RA36801 OK. Direct or through Tangerang?"
At 14:05 (0705 UTC), the second demonstration flight requested start and pushback
At 14:10 pm asking for permission to start engines
at 14:14 the flight cleared for taxi runway 06
at 14:18 ATC issued clearance to the flight that after take-off initially to maintain runway heading until passing 2000 feet, then to make a right turn to intercept radial 200 from HLM VOR and climb to 10,000 feet.
At 14:19 the flight was cleared for take-off
At 14.21 the flight was airborne and instructed to contact Jakarta Approach
14:24
SSJ: Tower 36801 good afternoon, establish Radial 200 degrees VOR 10,000 feet…
ATC: “RA36801 radar contact, maintain 10,000 feet and proceed.
SSJ: Maintain level at 10,000 feet 36801
pilots were flying IFR
14:26
SSJ: Tower, 36801 request descend 6,000 feet
ATC: 36801 say again request
SSJ repeated
ATC: Okay, 6,000 copied
As usual each afternoon, the traffic in the skies over Jakarta was hectic...ATC was personally serving 13 flights simultaneously. According to one tower worker, although five people were listed as being on duty at that hour of the day, N was alone and unassisted.
14:28
SSJ: Tower, 36801 request turn right circle present position
ATC: RA 36801 approve circle to the right 6,000
The request to turn the plane was the last communication from the pilot. Nearly five minutes later (14:33), the plane crashed into the ridge. From the black box recording, according to one Russian investigator, a moment after the request was approved, the pilot shrieked, "O Bozhe, chto eto takoe? (Oh God, what is this?)"
The controller only realized what had happened 24 minutes later. The plane was no longer on the radar screen. He tried to contact the Sukhoi three times, but there was no reply.
14:52 pm, ATC called Soekarno Hatta Airport because the plane is not visible on the radar monitor
At 14:05 (0705 UTC), the second demonstration flight requested start and pushback
At 14:10 pm asking for permission to start engines
at 14:14 the flight cleared for taxi runway 06
at 14:18 ATC issued clearance to the flight that after take-off initially to maintain runway heading until passing 2000 feet, then to make a right turn to intercept radial 200 from HLM VOR and climb to 10,000 feet.
At 14:19 the flight was cleared for take-off
At 14.21 the flight was airborne and instructed to contact Jakarta Approach
14:24
SSJ: Tower 36801 good afternoon, establish Radial 200 degrees VOR 10,000 feet…
ATC: “RA36801 radar contact, maintain 10,000 feet and proceed.
SSJ: Maintain level at 10,000 feet 36801
pilots were flying IFR
14:26
SSJ: Tower, 36801 request descend 6,000 feet
ATC: 36801 say again request
SSJ repeated
ATC: Okay, 6,000 copied
As usual each afternoon, the traffic in the skies over Jakarta was hectic...ATC was personally serving 13 flights simultaneously. According to one tower worker, although five people were listed as being on duty at that hour of the day, N was alone and unassisted.
14:28
SSJ: Tower, 36801 request turn right circle present position
ATC: RA 36801 approve circle to the right 6,000
The request to turn the plane was the last communication from the pilot. Nearly five minutes later (14:33), the plane crashed into the ridge. From the black box recording, according to one Russian investigator, a moment after the request was approved, the pilot shrieked, "O Bozhe, chto eto takoe? (Oh God, what is this?)"
The controller only realized what had happened 24 minutes later. The plane was no longer on the radar screen. He tried to contact the Sukhoi three times, but there was no reply.
14:52 pm, ATC called Soekarno Hatta Airport because the plane is not visible on the radar monitor
The ivory tower
and here:
Control Tower Played a Role in Sukhoi Tragedy, finds Tempo Investigation | nasional | Tempo.co
I suppose that report will be released soon
Last edited by Karel_x; 17th Oct 2012 at 20:35.
A Russian investigator who has knowledge of the initial analysis result of the black box said that Yablontsev was about to conduct a maneuver after his request to descend was approved by the Cengkareng tower. “He wanted to fly between two mountain peaks,” said the investigator. Mt. Salak has three peaks with deep valleys.
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Marketing the Sukhoi-100 the Russian way...
Buyers of Russian Sukhoi Superjet-100 may use credits - Medvedev: Voice of Russia
Russia’s Prime Minister also said earlier this month that amendments were introduced to the rules regulating the allocation of credits for technical equipment and leasing to the Russian producers of planes, helicopters and air engines.
Russia’s Prime Minister also said earlier this month that amendments were introduced to the rules regulating the allocation of credits for technical equipment and leasing to the Russian producers of planes, helicopters and air engines.
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October is passed, any news on the report ?
My ( local ) info said some time ago already that the report was ready and would be made public before end October.
My ( local ) info said some time ago already that the report was ready and would be made public before end October.
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October is passed, any news on the report ?
(...to be continued
)Now Superjet obtains Indonesian type certificate and the first of twelve planes for Indonesian Sky Aviation will be prepared to deliver till the end of year. Few days ago its cabin interior was completed.
Some planes are preparing for Laos (Lao Central) and Mexican Interjet increased its order to 30 planes. Superjet (prepared for Yakutia) visited China and Russians believe in interest from this country.
In these days another Superjet flew to Iceland to do some test to increase limits for back and crosswind while landing.
Armavia (with its Superjet) is prepared for sale during few weeks (probably to Italian investor).
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Thanks Karel.
In the meantime time I have been told what is on the draft, and I can understand why it is delayed . some paras are quite clear. Not sure they will remain in the final published issue though, but leaking them now makes sure the lessons will not be lost for everyone, or on the futility to try to hide things in this time and age... Good move.
But from what I heard and saw this accident has nothing to do with the aircraft, or its avionics, and a lot to do on what I would call " sloppyness" , from really all sides...that is why everyone is against the report basically...
Waiting until it comes out to comment further..
I also was told that the Controller involved will be re-installed this week ( he was suspended until now) Good move too, he was just caught in the middle..
In the meantime time I have been told what is on the draft, and I can understand why it is delayed . some paras are quite clear. Not sure they will remain in the final published issue though, but leaking them now makes sure the lessons will not be lost for everyone, or on the futility to try to hide things in this time and age... Good move.
But from what I heard and saw this accident has nothing to do with the aircraft, or its avionics, and a lot to do on what I would call " sloppyness" , from really all sides...that is why everyone is against the report basically...
Waiting until it comes out to comment further..
I also was told that the Controller involved will be re-installed this week ( he was suspended until now) Good move too, he was just caught in the middle..
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Sukhoi Superjet 100 obtains Indonesian Type Certificate
The Sukhoi Superjet 100 obtains Indonesian Type Certificate
On November 22, 2012 the Indonesian General Directorate of Civil Aviation validated the Type Certificate for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft (RRJ-95B).
This validation confirms compliance of the SSJ100 to the certification requirements of the Indonesian Aviation Authority, allowing its export to Indonesia and operation by Indonesian airlines without restrictions.
“The validation process has been completed through a long and careful work resulting in the obtainment of the SSJ100 Type Certificate by the Indonesian Authority. This will allow to deliver the aircraft to the first customer in the Southeast Asian market, the Indonesian airline Sky Aviation”, said Igor Vinogradov, SCAC First Vice-President for Development and Certification.
In June 2011 during Farnborough International Airshow JSC “Sukhoi Civil Aircraft” (SCAC) and Indonesian carrier Sky Aviation signed a contract for 12 SSJ100 to be delivered in 2012-2015. The first delivery of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft is expected by the end of this year.
Superjet 100 Type Certificate validation process was started in February 2012 with an application for certification.
In July 2012 on the occasion of the visit of the Indonesian Ministry of Transport to Russia the document defining the scope and procedure of works to validate the Type Certificate for SSJ100 in Indonesia was signed.
In January 2011 the SSJ100 obtained the Type Certificate by the Russian Certification Authority IAC AR. In February 2012 the aircraft achieved the EASA Type Certificate, followed by the validation of Mexican Aviation Authority in April 2012.
Aviatime ...Source: Sukhoi
On November 22, 2012 the Indonesian General Directorate of Civil Aviation validated the Type Certificate for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft (RRJ-95B).
This validation confirms compliance of the SSJ100 to the certification requirements of the Indonesian Aviation Authority, allowing its export to Indonesia and operation by Indonesian airlines without restrictions.
“The validation process has been completed through a long and careful work resulting in the obtainment of the SSJ100 Type Certificate by the Indonesian Authority. This will allow to deliver the aircraft to the first customer in the Southeast Asian market, the Indonesian airline Sky Aviation”, said Igor Vinogradov, SCAC First Vice-President for Development and Certification.
In June 2011 during Farnborough International Airshow JSC “Sukhoi Civil Aircraft” (SCAC) and Indonesian carrier Sky Aviation signed a contract for 12 SSJ100 to be delivered in 2012-2015. The first delivery of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft is expected by the end of this year.
Superjet 100 Type Certificate validation process was started in February 2012 with an application for certification.
In July 2012 on the occasion of the visit of the Indonesian Ministry of Transport to Russia the document defining the scope and procedure of works to validate the Type Certificate for SSJ100 in Indonesia was signed.
In January 2011 the SSJ100 obtained the Type Certificate by the Russian Certification Authority IAC AR. In February 2012 the aircraft achieved the EASA Type Certificate, followed by the validation of Mexican Aviation Authority in April 2012.
Aviatime ...Source: Sukhoi
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...this accident has nothing to do with the aircraft, or its avionics...
No comment.
Suit: Faulty Boeing equipment caused
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Some vultures lawyers exploiting greiving families again .
2 quotes :
I think the judges will have it easy with that one
When the judges will hear /see the CVR that one may be an easy one too.
But I am not a Judge.
If I was the families I would rather question those who authorised (or not) an unregistered prototype to carry passengers. ( that info is on the preliminary report) . But those were not Americans, so little or no money to be made there I guess ...
2 quotes :
The plane, which was built by Boeing
did not activate when the plane approached the mountain.
But I am not a Judge.
If I was the families I would rather question those who authorised (or not) an unregistered prototype to carry passengers. ( that info is on the preliminary report) . But those were not Americans, so little or no money to be made there I guess ...
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As far as I know, ACSS makes T2CAS systems for SSJ100
and I didn't know that Boeing makes any T2CAS.
Instead, boeing is responsible for doors, pilot seats and overall supervision and consultations for the project, if I am correct.
I will be surprised if judge decides to give those poor people some money. Just don't see any reason apart from the fact it would not be fair!
This money they theoretically can get from russian agency that crashed plane belonged to. So, relatives could go to the Indonesian government and ask about money. That government could ask....firmly....Russians to pay.
I am sure they will pay. You know, they still want to sell planes at least to somebody.
But, for some reason I think two governments will decide this under the carpet, with some bribes.
Both governments have really extensive practice with that.
and I didn't know that Boeing makes any T2CAS.
Instead, boeing is responsible for doors, pilot seats and overall supervision and consultations for the project, if I am correct.
I will be surprised if judge decides to give those poor people some money. Just don't see any reason apart from the fact it would not be fair!
This money they theoretically can get from russian agency that crashed plane belonged to. So, relatives could go to the Indonesian government and ask about money. That government could ask....firmly....Russians to pay.
I am sure they will pay. You know, they still want to sell planes at least to somebody.
But, for some reason I think two governments will decide this under the carpet, with some bribes.
Both governments have really extensive practice with that.
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Researching (googling) for more information on Embraer's having received certification for the 190 and 195, I stumbled across this surprising August article in Pravda. Russia's Sukhoi Superjet-100 completely hopeless - English pravda.ru
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Researching (googling) for more information on Embraer's having received certification for the 190 and 195, I stumbled across this surprising August article in Pravda. Russia's Sukhoi Superjet-100 completely hopeless - English pravda.ru
I don't agree with that linked article. There are much inaccuracies and it is not written in objective manner.
The Sukhoi Superjet-100 does not sell abroad.
The only one jetliner, which was used by Armenian airline Armavia has already been returned to Russia
etc. etc.
On tomorrow some information of final report should be published.
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SSJ100 crash
...this accident has nothing to do with the aircraft, or its avionics... I agree ... but some families of victims filled the lawsuit against Boeing (!) company at Chicago court two weeks ago. They declared that the T2CAS was delivered by Boeing and it did not work properly.
No comment.
That's my reply as well !
PS There're sheister lawyers everywhere looking for a buck.
No comment.
That's my reply as well !
PS There're sheister lawyers everywhere looking for a buck.
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Probably the same lawyers who represented the families of the Silk Air 185 which crashed in Indonesia in 1997. 
On another note, a few of my colleagues who have since changed airlines and now flying for Sky Aviation in Indonesia, have just completed the simulator training on the SSJ 100. They are soon to start line training as captains in the next few months, if not weeks. Seems like it's all systems go here in Indonesia for the SSJ 100.
On another note, a few of my colleagues who have since changed airlines and now flying for Sky Aviation in Indonesia, have just completed the simulator training on the SSJ 100. They are soon to start line training as captains in the next few months, if not weeks. Seems like it's all systems go here in Indonesia for the SSJ 100.