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Old 9th May 2012, 15:40   #41 (permalink)
 
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i know this area well. I hope it did not crash onto the hundreds of little hamlets in the valley
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Old 9th May 2012, 15:51   #42 (permalink)
 
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Twitter account of Russian blogger covering the plane's promotional flights: Sergey Dolya (@dolyasergey) on Twitter
His Twitpic account: Twitpic / dolyasergey
His photo album for the trip: MobileMe Gallery

If we have indeed lost this plane, which seems highly probable now, there are a lot of photos in that last link that will be the last those people have had taken...
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:12   #43 (permalink)
 
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he is the one of the passenger...his BBM status yes, @ Sukhoi demo... he's not answering my bbm...
I just got this message, nobody I know can contact the pax on the demo flight
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:12   #44 (permalink)
 
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If you look at the pic of the overhead panel, does it look like the ELT is switched off.......
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:17   #45 (permalink)
 
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If you look at the pic of the overhead panel, does it look like the ELT is switched off.......
It looks "Armed" to me? Probably a normal position.
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:26   #46 (permalink)
 
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Yep your right, was looking at the wrong switch.
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:35   #47 (permalink)
 
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AseanAero..just maybe you and I are referring to the same person.
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:36   #48 (permalink)
 
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Sketchy details but I just heard from an unofficial source they found the wreck at 3,000ft near a waterfall on Gunung Salak , we will probably get official details in the morning.

I have some other details but I will wait now for the official version but it doesn't sound good.

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Old 9th May 2012, 16:38   #49 (permalink)
 
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Reuters reporting nothing official yet - just notes 50 on board
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:41   #50 (permalink)
 
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If you look at the pic of the overhead panel, does it look like the ELT is switched off.......
I'm more worried about the disabled TAWS...
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:45   #51 (permalink)
 
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I'm more worried about the disabled TAWS...
I have no knowledge of this aircraft systems but the fault lights for TAWS maybe a normal indication with the IRS/ADIRU (insert equivalent) system turned off on the ground.
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:51   #52 (permalink)
 
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Local Sukhoi agent says 42 pax and 8 crew


50 people on board missing Sukhoi airliner | The Jakarta Post

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“We have the passengers’ list, but we have to double check since some of the invitees failed to go on board and some others, who are on board, are not listed in the invitee list,”
So basically they really don't know who is on board
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:56   #53 (permalink)
 
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If the system is similar to that on other aircraft (Airbus) then there is no need to switch the GPWS system off, unless for a specific non-routine reason. The fault lights are not that interesting to me on the ground, the off light all the more(thanks for pointing that out A Floor). Again, assuming that the system is similar to what I know.

Anyway, we will have to wait a few months or years for the investigation.
Very sobering pictures.
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Old 9th May 2012, 16:58   #54 (permalink)
 
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I have no knowledge of this aircraft systems but the fault lights for TAWS maybe a normal indication with the IRS/ADIRU (insert equivalent) system turned off on the ground.
I am aware of that, the external power may have just been applied to the aircraft which meant the TAWS computer would still have been booting when the pic was taken, but that would not explain why the TERR function was switched off.... as far as I know, this is not normally done. The picture was also taken today, the 9th of May.
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Old 9th May 2012, 17:17   #55 (permalink)
 
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but that would not explain why the TERR function was switched off
Maybe as it was a demo aircraft it didn't have a terrain database installed for that region, or would it normally be part of the FMS database in which case it probably would have??
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Old 9th May 2012, 17:43   #56 (permalink)
 
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Superjet International released a statement on their website

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Old 9th May 2012, 17:59   #57 (permalink)
 
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"The leading-edge technologies, being the core ingredient of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 Project, penetrate its every stage – from design and development to final assembly, delivering a modern, economically efficient and globally marketable aircraft. "

Sukhoi Company (JSC) - Airplanes - Civil aviation - Sukhoi Superjet 100

Sukhoi Company (JSC) - News - News

Being as there are/were great hopes to make a new BRIC based multinational aviation project, this incident couldn't come at a worse moment, irrespective of the fatalities, eventual causes, ?human? errors.

Next after the initial quake will come the tsunami of speculation and disinformation.
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Old 9th May 2012, 18:20   #58 (permalink)
 
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The real "culture" of Sukhoi comes alive, if nothing, absolutely nothing, is mentioned on their page...

Sukhoi Company (JSC) - Main page
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Old 9th May 2012, 18:28   #59 (permalink)
 
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I suppose I can only throw out the suggestion of disgruntled employee sabotage or opposition sabotage. Definitely not what I'd expect from this crew. Have met both members of the flight deck of this crash a few months back, both solid pilots, I wouldn't jump to questioning their ability. Have been on a Sukhoi SJET test flight - a sturdy craft indeed. I think we need to shy away from the usual 'Russian plane - it was bound to crash' and blaming ATC. I suggest some interesting things will come out of the investigation to follow.
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Old 9th May 2012, 18:36   #60 (permalink)
 
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Unhappy

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@e_kirsanova @matyaboy @dolyasergey Not surprised. I got news that crash site found w/ aircraft split in two and bodies strewn! Not happy!
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