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BA Flight LHR - GLA Returned due to both pilots becoming lightheaded and dizzy

Old 21st Dec 2011, 21:52
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bbd, "this is the captain/FO would the senior cabin crew member report to the flight deck immediately"

Close enough for me, I'll take a cheque
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Old 21st Dec 2011, 22:02
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Similar to Juan's reply - our (JAA operator) standard call in an urgent situation such as this is "Purser report to cockpit" and has to be done on the PA in case cabin crew are busy in the cabin pressing the normal 2 chime bells means they first finish what they are doing (serving meals/selling sandwiches) and only then come up & call you back - wasting precious time in an urgent situation.

What urgency call does your company have brit bus driver?
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Old 21st Dec 2011, 22:55
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My point is that if the OP cannot quote the alert call correctly - and I am certain that BA doesn't use 'flight attendant' - what credence can be given to the rest of his insights. As I said, this forum is frequently pillaged by the press so why feed the trolls with ill-informed speculation about incapacitated pilots?

Sorry Lord Spandex, we don't use the phrase 'this is the captain (or FO)' in those circumstances, so the cheque will be used to pay the builders instead.

Piton, your question has been answered in this thread.
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 00:28
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The comment about the rebreathing bag on portable O2 cylinder is utter rubbish by the way. The bag is there to accommodate the peak inspiratory flow rate during spontaneous respiration. If a patient is not spontaneously breathing then resuscitation is required. Fortunately cabin crew are well trained and know this.
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 03:38
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Devil dizzy/nauseous.....wtf??

The guys probably saw what the crew meal was....then developed those symptoms??
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 04:19
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Coded message given, crew reacted well, aircraft landed safely. Wait until the report comes out. Perfectly executed plan end of.
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 08:16
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Wait until the report comes out
By report I assume you mean AAIB? If every airborne return resulted in the AAIB report, then they would be a somewhat larger outfit than they are

The company / CAA / AAIB reporting system (e.g. MOR) is well defined - whether the AAIB was even required to be informed I would guess is unlikely, the chance of a report from them somewhat less. IMHO

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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 09:30
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Folks many many thanks for the genuinely helpful posts its appreciated and re emphasises what this forum is about. With regards to the pretencious and somewhat rude and totally unhelpful comments thanks to you too, it made me chuckle/cringe somewhat, but hell a good read anyway
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 09:45
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stepwilk

I do wonder, though, how on earth he knew they were "heading back to LHR at great speed." Carrying his own pitot/static system?
Wouldn't be caught dead on a flight without mine.

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Still being fed the tech fault line but the first on board were paramedics.??
Batboy: I think very many of the public would recognise the precautionary actions for what they are. All that airport security for instance, doesn't mean there's a bomb on your plane. Not sure where you're coming from with this skepticism over the technical fault. If there were fumes in the cockpit that's a technical fault, shurly.
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 15:16
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Imalyon, forgive me, but I have never heard of drop down masks on the flight deck. You want 100% pure O2 on the flight deck if necessary, not the rubbish that comes out of the drop down masks in the cabin. That's why the flight deck is equipped with smoke mask, goggles etc so they can operate better under major problems.
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 04:40
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Angel :yuk:

dizzy/nauseous.....wtf??
The guys probably saw what the crew meal was....then developed those symptoms??


or this was an enlightened method of getting the christmas leave that was cancelled!

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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 08:18
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Was the window shut..............?
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 10:55
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Was the window shut..............?
Should have been.

"Windows/Doors................Closed/Locked" is on all of the Airbus cx-lists I've ever used

(unless it failed airbourne)
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 11:22
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Fargoo, thanks very much for the update. So as I first thought, not the open and shut case that everybody who wasn't there predicted. Many Thanks
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 13:24
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Crew Lightheaded

For all of you dismissing the OP on this one ... shame on you.

More info here:

Incident: British Airways A321 near London on Dec 20th 2011, both flight crew nearly passed out
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 14:50
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A question for batboy1970 from another SLF...

That Aviation Herald article reports that the passenger oxygen automatically deployed. Did that actually happen? If so, my uneducated guess would be that it's a pretty significant detail.
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 14:56
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The OP would have mentioned that ! Very doubtful on the masks deploying.
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 14:57
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Oh well, there ya go. I set out to ask a genuine question about something I was involved in and now have thge answer, I'm not a big PPRUNE user and its little wonder. The question that springs to mind now is, when the CAA and involved crew actually make statements as per the link, is it a general rule that you will now attempt to belittle them and question there integrity, with statements like stick to the facts "there's a good chap".....

So in a nutshell sometimes YOU don't have a clue who are posting these comments and what knowledge and expierience they have, however as an OP we clearly have a good idea of one or two who are responding.

Poor show to some of you, I hope you read the quotations and firmly felt like the fools you now look.

Again to the positive responders thank you very much indeed, your probably enjoying a good quality of air with your heads NOT being up your own ar*es
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 15:33
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Do BA do packs or bleeds off/On apu take-offs?
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 18:02
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No, unless we have to - not very often.
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