An A320 Captain in China has been found out as a faker and fired. He was confirmed as a low hour european f/o until very recently. All paperwork was fake.
I was surprised because of the amount of paperwork checks required by the Chinese but he made it through. It was clear to every pilot that he did not hold his command or even flight hours he said he had.
How do we as an industry ensure that people like this do not get ahead unfairly with their lies? What will stop them from showing up at another airline claiming to be Captains once again? Suggestions please.
A diligent pre-employment screening process. Interviews, records, skills/knowledge assessment, background check... Just the usual things done by competent employers.
Jail them. Prison time in china sounds about right. This is happening alot more than it should so the only way to deter idiots like this is charge them for a whole lot of offences such as fraud, endangering flight safety etc.
Unfortunately several months ago a whole lot of Chinese pilots faked their hours and were only given re-training. There will be many more in the future Unless someone does something about it.
I agree with Jazz Hands, such fakers should be charged with criminal offences, if at all possible, "Unnecessarily endangering life" comes to mind but may be hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt. If the falsification of the paper work can be made a criminal offence, (maybe it is?), then a nice fat criminal record will make future jobs very hard to get, possible effect licence issue and certainly effect the issue of an airside pass.
See my previous post for preventative measures. As for how to punish these frauds? Oh I'll go along with whatever you guys want to to do to them and more. I'll also reserve some scorn for the idiots who are responsible for the policies which failed to detect them all throughout the hiring/training/line checking process. Maybe just some caning or other public humiliation for them!
If the falsification of the paper work can be made a criminal offence, (maybe it is?
In the United Kingdom, I expect that the Fraud Act 2006 would apply, "Fraud by false representation" (formerly "Obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception", before 2007), and that's criminal law. But I am not a lawyer. I would expect that misrepresenting yourself to get money (Captain's salary!) would be illegal in most places!
A diligent pre-employment screening process. Interviews, records, skills/knowledge assessment, background check... Just the usual things done by competent employers.
I agree with westhawk, it is lazy recruiting practices that generally allow this to happen. Its typically very easy to see a bullshitter via the sim and under line training by a competent checker, if they have even been allowed to get that far that is!
As "most" foreign pilots in China are employed through a greedy agency perhaps the agencies too ought to be accountable. That would ensure that they did some proper background checks as well, before submitting an applicant! Just a thought.
Looks like another fake pilot in India, but for a change it's an aussie national. It took Rishworth 3 years to find out that he had fudged his flying hours. See the article below....
Looks like another fake pilot in India, but for a change it's an aussie national. It took Rishworth 3 years to find out that he had fudged his flying hours
I was listening for over 30 minutes to a long & involved discussion on this & other subjcts on 123.45 last night.
It's not a new problem. Fate is the Hunter, the seminal pilot's story, has a good chapter on a fellow who did the same thing way back when. He was discovered while navigating West Coast-Hawaii, totally lost.
He was fired from that job, but managed to secure a captain's seat at another company where he ended up killing himself and all his passengers.
An A320 Captain in China has been found out as a faker and fired. He was confirmed as a low hour european f/o until very recently. All paperwork was fake.
How long had he been there before he got found out?
Have their names and prints sent to every CAA worldwide.
In my experience with a Western EASA regulated aviation authority, very little will happen (however of course it should still be reported). Its really down to the airlines themselves to detect and not hire these individuals.
Normally, NAAs (National Aviation Authorities) are able to produce letters of confirmation for all its license holders. It's strange to see that certain NAAs (in this case: China and India) do not make use of this institution.
A license holder's NAA could easily give answer to the career one has made.
the Hravskan's are pretty well represented. If the "Australian" has falsified docs, would think that a closer look at his mates would be of great interest to the authorities...
