Another landing accident in Indonesia (Papua)
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Another landing accident in Indonesia (Papua)
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Over weight ops are standard there. Having been based in sentani where this freighter was based we would regularly see them just stagger into the sky..they would go up to about 18-20k altitude, with no pressurisation, as it was in op and think there was no issue with this...the mentality of these people is crazy
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Nonsense
they are flying into areas with almost no navaids, in scenery that runs up to 16000ft and has appalling weather and grim runways
they do their best and most of the time they do a good job
landing long or short can happen in Indonesian Papua, Blackbushe, San Francisco or whereever at any time
they are flying into areas with almost no navaids, in scenery that runs up to 16000ft and has appalling weather and grim runways
they do their best and most of the time they do a good job
landing long or short can happen in Indonesian Papua, Blackbushe, San Francisco or whereever at any time
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I think you mean, most of the time they get lucky.
Operating in an unforgiving environment, as you point out, bending the rules. Luck and statistics, rather than a good job.
Operating in an unforgiving environment, as you point out, bending the rules. Luck and statistics, rather than a good job.
"Over weight ops" happen pretty frequently everywhere. And more often than you might expect, they do indeed get away with it. There's always that classic, much-copied video of someone taking an Il-76 off somewhere in Australia, with suitable Aussie commentary.
Re Il-76 - not overloaded. There was commentary on a thread about this, and if I recall correctly it's a technique used to comply with segment requirements after lift off. Think mention was made of the early 707 using the same. Will search for the relevant thread.
See here, in particular post #75. Other relevant posts #104, 120, 140
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...red-video.html
See here, in particular post #75. Other relevant posts #104, 120, 140
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...red-video.html
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If you're thinking of "improved climb" it's still in use on modern types...though having seen the Il-76 video a few times whilst I guess it's possible I'd need to see their "numbers" to be convinced....
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Another clue was that he was barely above taxi speed as he went abeam the tower.
It was a great job of rotating just at the end. Did anyone inventory the runway end lights afterwards?
It was a great job of rotating just at the end. Did anyone inventory the runway end lights afterwards?
