French Concorde crash
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French Concorde crash
The French court will hand down its verdict on Monday 6th Dec in a 10-year-old case brought to decide what caused the crash of an Air France Concorde in 2000, which killed 113 people and hastened the end of luxury supersonic travel.
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What caused the crash is already well known, even if some contributary factors can be argued (the Swiss cheese arguments, etc.).
The current court case is ridiculous, an unfortunate consequence of the French legal system, and of course a rich dog's dinner for the lawyers for the parties involved.
Their "verdict" will be futile... even more so since the aircraft is no longer flying.
Nevertheless, thanks for opening a separate thread on the subject!
We have an interesting 'technical' thread going on the Tech Log forum, and this may prevent it being polluted by an endless rehash of the crash story.
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Well I wonder if they will come to the conclusion that you don't fly an overweight burning wreck through the air, or it will be pilot buddy apologists, wringing their hands about all the 'factors' involved to muddle the clear facts....
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Any proper review of the aircraft's history prior to the crash would have shown that it did not meet the relevant expectations upon which affirmative airworthiness decisions are made.
Will the DGAC bear the brunt?
Je crois que...
non...
Will the DGAC bear the brunt?
Je crois que...
non...
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The current court case is ridiculous, an unfortunate consequence of the French legal system, and of course a rich dog's dinner for the lawyers for the parties involved.
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Hi,
I read .....
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Concorde : le verdict : Les dossiers noirs du transport aérien
The verdict will certainly be published in due time here:
mars 2010 Procès du crash du CONCORDE
I read .....
Concorde: the verdict
- An airplane serious flaws in design
- 21 years of omerta
- 90 seconds to die
- A very technical investigation report incomplete
- A judicial very oriented
- Trial cans
- 113 dead finally forgotten ...
AMEN
- An airplane serious flaws in design
- 21 years of omerta
- 90 seconds to die
- A very technical investigation report incomplete
- A judicial very oriented
- Trial cans
- 113 dead finally forgotten ...
AMEN
Concorde : le verdict : Les dossiers noirs du transport aérien
The verdict will certainly be published in due time here:
mars 2010 Procès du crash du CONCORDE
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............. and the man dubbed the “Father of the Concorde” for his role in the development of the delta-winged aircraft, face charges of involuntary homicide after the accident on July 25 2000. They all deny responsibility.
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There was a very interesting reconstruction and reporter investigation conducted by National Geographic Channel. They interviewed many people, including French technical staff who were eye witnesses. What came out was far from conclusive that it was caused by 'that single piece of metal' puncturing the wing. These guys claimed to have seen other things, but were not listened too. Where's Michael Moore when you need him? I'm not trying to trivialise the issue, but the program did raise some question which, in the aftermath, do not appear to have been answered. It may not have been such a simple stright forward matter. I stand to be corrected in the final report.
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France will never blame a French and certainly never Air France for not complying with the maintenance procedures! Shame on them!
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Remember Toronto or the South Atlantic? It's never their fault. I know what company I decide not to choose when I fly...
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Supersonic passenger decade - Flight International 1986
A January 25, 1986 Flight International article - Supersonic passenger decade - can be found at these links:
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0214 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0215 | Flight Archive
airbus | concorde | 1986 | 0216 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0217 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0218 | Flight Archive
air france | 1986 | 0219 | Flight Archive
The FAA type certification of the Concorde issued April 23, 1974, can be found at this link:
Special Conditions; Societe Nationale Industrielle Aerospatiale/British
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0214 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0215 | Flight Archive
airbus | concorde | 1986 | 0216 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0217 | Flight Archive
air france | concorde | 1986 | 0218 | Flight Archive
air france | 1986 | 0219 | Flight Archive
The FAA type certification of the Concorde issued April 23, 1974, can be found at this link:
Special Conditions; Societe Nationale Industrielle Aerospatiale/British
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It seems beyond belief to me that an airline is not fined ten times that amount for perpetrating such an appallingly gash and illegal "repair" to an aircraft even if it hurt no one. $200.000 for that would be getting off scot-free.
As they caused the deaths of over 100 people and destroyed hundreds of millions in property through that criminal negligence then the fine is a bloody insult to the victims and their families. There should be three or four more zeros on the end of it.
And why is Air France not on the block too, their negligence led directly to the crash too?
A whitewash and utter disgrace.
As they caused the deaths of over 100 people and destroyed hundreds of millions in property through that criminal negligence then the fine is a bloody insult to the victims and their families. There should be three or four more zeros on the end of it.
And why is Air France not on the block too, their negligence led directly to the crash too?
A whitewash and utter disgrace.
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The aircraft was overweight, C of G outside the aft limit, taking off downwind, a 10 inch spacer missing from the main undercarriage and eyewitnesses reported that it was already on fire before it hit the titanium. There is more, but not un Grenouille to blame.
chauvinism: exaggerated or aggressive patriotism
The legendary Nicolas Chauvin was a Frenchman. What else did we expect?
chauvinism: exaggerated or aggressive patriotism
The legendary Nicolas Chauvin was a Frenchman. What else did we expect?
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A Paris court has said Continental Airlines was "criminally responsible" for the crash of a Concorde supersonic jet 10 years ago, and fined it 200,000 euros (£170,000).
It has also been ordered to pay 1m euros to the jet's operator Air France.
A Continental mechanic, John Taylor, was given a 15-month suspended prison sentence over the crash.
Continental has said it will appeal, saying the verdict "only protects French interests".
Source:
BBC News - Continental 'responsible' for Concorde crash in 2000
Continentals response is what you'd expect from them, pretty low class IMO
It has also been ordered to pay 1m euros to the jet's operator Air France.
A Continental mechanic, John Taylor, was given a 15-month suspended prison sentence over the crash.
Continental has said it will appeal, saying the verdict "only protects French interests".
Source:
BBC News - Continental 'responsible' for Concorde crash in 2000
Continentals response is what you'd expect from them, pretty low class IMO
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I would absolutely love it if the FAA and US Government ban french registered aircraft from their airspace.
You can come out with "Mickey Mouse" verdicts like this, that completely ignore the facts.
I'm no Americophile, but this decision is just ridiculous.
You can come out with "Mickey Mouse" verdicts like this, that completely ignore the facts.
I'm no Americophile, but this decision is just ridiculous.