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Old 27th Jul 2010, 09:44   #1 (permalink)
 
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Lufty Cargo Crash in Saudi

Sky news reports a crash in Riyadh, any real news on what happened?
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 09:47   #2 (permalink)
 
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27 July 2010 10:42:49
Lufthansa AG Reportdly cargo plane crashes at Saudi airport, Riyadh
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 09:58   #3 (permalink)
 
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Must have just happened as I landed at around 0800z and everything was calm and quiet. Guess they will have to open up 33 Right (notamed for routine maintenance).

Hope all is well. Any idea on type a/c (md11?)?
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 10:05   #4 (permalink)
 
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Lufthansa MD-11 crash landed at RUH, aircraft caught fire and split-ed in 2 half, crew reported to be safe.

Could be LH8460 from FRA which was scheduled at 0920L . It was then meant to go on to SHJ at 1050L and then further on to HKG. If all that is correct then according to Acars that would make it D-ALCQ.

ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: D-ALCQ [McDonnell Douglas MD11]
Message label: ** Block id: @ Msg no: 6e4f
Flight id: LH8460 [FRA-RUH-SHJ-HKG] [Lufthansa]
Message content:-
SBS-1 Callsign: GEC8460
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 10:14   #5 (permalink)
 
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Runway 33L and 33R

recent weather reports:

RIYADH KING KHALED INTL - OERK - RUH
METAR:
OERK 271000Z 32022KT 7000 SKC 41/05 Q1005 NOSIG=
OERK 270900Z 32014KT CAVOK 40/05 Q1006 NOSIG=
OERK 270800Z 34014KT CAVOK 39/06 Q1006 NOSIG=
OERK 270700Z 35010KT CAVOK 38/07 Q1007 NOSIG=
OERK 270600Z 33009KT CAVOK 37/07 Q1007 NOSIG=
OERK 270500Z 31008KT CAVOK 33/05 Q1007 NOSIG=
OERK 270400Z 29006KT CAVOK 30/06 Q1006 NOSIG=
OERK 270300Z 30007KT CAVOK 28/04 Q1006 NOSIG=
OERK 270200Z 30007KT CAVOK 28/04 Q1005 NOSIG=

Whilst obviously very hot, the wind direction and strength would not initially seem to cause any undue concern.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 10:27   #6 (permalink)
 
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BBC News - Lufthansa cargo plane crashes at Riyadh airport
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:05   #7 (permalink)
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She is the most challenging plane of all civilian widebody airliners with the highest wingloading and fastest approach speeds. Not easy to land at all, even under normal conditions. The Lufti guys belong to the best trained pilots in the industry and nevertheless this happend, a sad day for the industry. Lets be thankfull that they survived.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:06   #8 (permalink)
 
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Glad the crew got out.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:13   #9 (permalink)
 
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Which LH Cargo MD11 had the hard landing gear incident in MMMX... D-ALCO? Was it written off?
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:29   #10 (permalink)
 
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I wonder if someone somewhere is attempting to shred some DGR paperwork. Sounds like some cargo went " poof. "
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:30   #11 (permalink)
 
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D-ALCO was repaired and back in service.

Aircraft involved in today's event was D-ALCQ operating as LH8460.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 11:48   #12 (permalink)
 
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The crew reported an in-flight fire in the lower (I think) cargo hold, and the airplane then broke apart during an otherwise-normal landing. Fire service had been informed and was awaiting the arrival.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 12:01   #13 (permalink)
 
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I wonder if someone somewhere is attempting to shred some DGR paperwork. Sounds like some cargo went " poof. "
Wow 6000PIC, case closed then.

Thanks for your brilliantly quick report, it will save Air Accident Investigators the bother!
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 12:18   #14 (permalink)
 
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According Luchtvaartnieuws, a Dutch newsagency, black smoke was coming from the airplane during approach.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 12:22   #15 (permalink)
 
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official LH statement:

According to the latest reports, a Lufthansa Cargo MD-11 freighter crashed this morning at 11.38 a.m. (local time) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The aircraft, coded Flight LH 8460, was on a flight to Riyadh from Frankfurt, Germany.

The plane was piloted by a two-man crew, according to initial reports. Both pilots are being treated in hospital.

On board Flight LH 8460 were 80 tonnes of freight. It is not yet known exactly what type of freight it was or which customers are affected.

The cause of the accident is still being investigated. At the moment, we have no further details. We will communicate any further information immediately. This accident might have an influence on our operation for the next few weeks. Lufthansa Cargo will do its best to operate a stable flight schedule. Updates are also available at
www.lufthansa-cargo.com.
Best regards

Lufthansa Cargo

J. Florian Pfaff
Vice President
Europe & Africa
Lufthansa Cargo
Nils Haupt
Director
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:24   #16 (permalink)
 
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good thing the crew survived it. always interesting when cargo catches fire..... hopefully with crew still alive and the cause can be found easily.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:30   #17 (permalink)
 
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Interesting!!!??? guess you dont fly airplanes for a living. NOTHING interesting about a cargo fire. Ive had one. Wasnt INTERESTING at all.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:31   #18 (permalink)
 
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what an over reaction. yes i fly planes. it was remark that how can it catches fire. relax





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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:45   #19 (permalink)
 
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in the USA, a DC8 freighter caught on fire due to lithium batteries in the cargo hold...a great quantity...wondering what the cargo was.

I recall an MD11 (or was it a 10) for Fedex broke apart landing in japan

I understand the plane requires a deft hand in landing...but we've all seen some terrible airborne fires...recall valujet and its crash in florida due to oxygen generators among other things in the cargo hold.

any landing you can walk away from...
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 14:09   #20 (permalink)
 
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from http://avherald.com/h?article=42edca16&opt=0
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Lufthansa Cargo said, that the airplane broke in two parts and caught fire. The two crew received injuries, the extent of which is not yet known.

Aviation sources in Riyadh reported, that the crew declared emergency reporting a cargo fire indication while on approach to Riyadh.

Observers on the ground said, that the airplane was already trailing smoke while on final approach.

Saudi Arabia's Civil Aviation Authority confirmed the crew arriving from Frankfurt (Germany) declared emergency reporting a cargo fire inside the aircraft while on approach and landed at 11:38L (08:38Z). An investigation is under way.
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