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Old 21st October 2009, 14:01   #1 (permalink)
 
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Crash at Sharjah airport

A cargo plane has crashed and there are casualties.. that`s all I have heard. Does anyone have any details?
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Old 21st October 2009, 14:22   #2 (permalink)
 
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From the Gulf News:

Sharjah: An aircraft has crashed on take-off from Sharjah Airport.

Casualties cannot be confirmed at the moment, or the name of the airline although it is believed to be a cargo plane which was carrying six people.

Eyewitnesses have reported seeing the plane "flip and burst into flames."

More follows.
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Old 21st October 2009, 14:26   #3 (permalink)
 
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Six dead according to this report from a normally reliable local business magazine.
Six dead as cargo plane crashes at Sharjah Airport - Travel & Hospitality - ArabianBusiness.com

Sudanese Boeing 707 according to the report. On take off. Airline not named.

Last edited by Dubaian : 21st October 2009 at 14:32. Reason: More info added
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Old 21st October 2009, 14:56   #4 (permalink)
 
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B707 was from Sudan Airways - nothing left of the aircraft
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Old 21st October 2009, 15:11   #5 (permalink)
 
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ST-AFA?
given, it was a 707, report doesn´t mention that anymore
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edit: AB now saying operator was Azza Transport of Khartoum, so it´s not ST-AFA

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Old 21st October 2009, 15:16   #6 (permalink)
 
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The Arabian Business source above now saying the airline is Azza Air.
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Old 21st October 2009, 15:29   #7 (permalink)
 
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From Reuters:

SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates, Oct 21 (Reuters) - A Sudanese cargo plane crashed shortly after takeoff from Sharjah airport in the United Arab Emirates, killing all six crew members on board.
Reuters photographer Ahmed Jadallah said the aircraft was completely destroyed. "... the aircraft is shattered into pieces and is completely charred and destroyed. The rescue workers are still here and working..." he said by telephone from the scene.
The Boeing 707 was carrying a crew of six and crashed shortly after takeoff, said Azza Air Transport Co Deputy Manager Ahmed Aasim, speaking from the Sudenese capital Khartoum. He said the aircraft was leased by Sudan Airways.
A freight handler at Sharjah airport told Reuters the plane came down near the runway.
"We tried to see the plane, but there was nothing left, it was all burnt out" said an aviation company employee whose offices were near the crash site.
The cause of the crash was not clear.
Sharjah is one of sven emirates in the UAE federation the includes trade and tourism hub Dubai and oil exporter Abu Dhabi.

Wednesday, 21 October 2009 14:31

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Old 21st October 2009, 15:46   #8 (permalink)
 
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Gulf News story and photos:-

gulfnews : Plane involved in accident at Sharjah Airport
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Old 21st October 2009, 15:47   #9 (permalink)
 
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Flight no: SUD2241
A/c Reg: ST-AKW
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:08   #10 (permalink)
 
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Mark, do you have a source for that reg?
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:12   #11 (permalink)
 
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reg, type

ACAS lists the aircraft belonging to


AZZA Transport
Sudan
707-300C
ST-AKW


it was operated by Sudan Airways on lease from Azza Air.

Sharjah AP lists the flight as:
STD 21-Oct 09:00
TO Khartoum
BY Sudan Airways
FLT NBR SUD 2241
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:26   #12 (permalink)
 
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reg, type

in fact am correcting myself on the earlier:

ACAS (FlightGlobal) has two aircraft of the type with AZZA Transport

AZZA Transport
Sudan
707-300C

1)
REG ST-JCC
Engines JT3D-3B(Q)
Age in AUG 08: 43.38 yrs

2)
REG ST-AKW
Egnines JT3D-3B
Age in AUG 08: 40.60 yrs
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:43   #13 (permalink)
 
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Just for historical reference, with the 707 airplane, if pneumatic pressure is lost to the leading edge devices, they retract whilst airbourne....slowly.
IF on one side, and not the other, at lower speeds...bad news.
Above V2+30...manageable.
Not however, a known historical fault, even remotely.
707, a very old design, however...IF maintained properly, very reliable in service.
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:48   #14 (permalink)
 
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Does UAE still have a NOTAM out saying operators are not allowed to depart overweight?
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Old 21st October 2009, 17:58   #15 (permalink)
 
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the aircraft crashed at 3.29pm, from Sharjah International Airport, according to the Sharjah airport authorities.

The flight was operated by Sudan Air and the aircraft owned (by Azza Air)

six Sudanese nationals on board the plane died in the crash .

and also sharjah airport closed its runway as a result of the crash and was reopened after two hours
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Old 21st October 2009, 18:44   #16 (permalink)
 
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Does UAE still have a NOTAM out saying operators are not allowed to depart overweight?
You need a notam for that? Really?
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Old 21st October 2009, 19:35   #17 (permalink)
 
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ST-AKW now confirmed by the Aviation Herald.

Crash: Azza Transport B707 at Sharjah on Oct 21st 2009, lost height after takeoff
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Old 21st October 2009, 23:59   #18 (permalink)
 
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B707 crash SHJ

Was in SHJ this afternoon, and saw the Azza 707 taxi out while we were being driven to our aircraft. It looked pretty nice. Of course a nice paintjob doesn't say much about the technical status...

Luckily we didn't see the take off or the actual accident.
Big clouds of smoke got our attention.

The airport authorities found quite a few aircraftparts on the runway, so the sequence of events probably started during take off. Field was closed for an hour or so while they collected al the stuff.

Our fueler had also fueled the 707, and said it was leaking fuel from several places on the wing.
I'm sure a 707 can be a perfectly safe aircraft to fly, even if it is 40-some yrs old. But you have to maintain it well.

The crew were all Sudanese, cargo flight to Khartoum.

We lost some college's today folks.
Poor guys having to fly such equipment.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 00:10   #19 (permalink)
 
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Very sad news, I remember this aircraft in better days with Nile Safaris.
Not sure that I agree with 411A about the leading edges. On the 320C they are hydraulic powered & mechanically lock in the fully extended position. Hydraulic pressure is required to unlock & retract them.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 00:13   #20 (permalink)
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terrible news... thoughts are with the families of those on board

Sounds like a slightly similar incident to the Spanair crash not so long back... no ??

Black Boxes have been recovered... will be interesting to find out what they bring to light...
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