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Old 10th Nov 2008, 07:56
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Ryanair incident Ciampino.

Any details anyone? Rwy closed until 1600.
NOTAM 1A6206/2008 refers
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:07
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Inbound aircraft from Hahn had multiple birdstrikes in both engines on final approach.
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NEW TODAY TIL 0811101600EST
AD CLSD TO ALL OPS DUE TO CRASH ACFT REF AIP AD 2 LIRA 1-1

Hope all ok.
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from a source in ryr the aircraft suffered double engine failure/surge or stall/double eng fire and had landing gear problems.....

what a time to have an incident like this when the white house is crawling with management.

i am sure the drivers did a good job getting it on the ground

ryr drivers are dam good drivers
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:26
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This news story is Still HOT off the press,
very little (in fact NO) information on the media as of yet.

Lets hope everybody okay, it will be interesting to find out what confronted the crew during the approach....from the description above, you would not wish that experience on any pilot, and in this case the Ryanair flight crew.

The Ba 777 pilots during the "Heathrow Glide Approach" were portrayed as heroes. What kind of fate is in store for the Ryanair Pilots....?
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:33
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No news anywhere yet just the Ryanair website, I hope the Media give the pilots praise for a job well done like the BA pilots, but my feelings tell me because we are a low cost airline it will be the opposite..... No news on anyone injured though
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Ryanair plane overruns runway during Rome emergency landing :
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I presume this is related, but my Italian is not great

AEROPORTO DI CIAMPINO
Aeroporti di Roma informa i passeggeri che l'aeroporto di Ciampino è momentaneamente chiuso per motivi tecnici.

Fonte: Sala stampa
ADR

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hey stall i hope you are right also,regarding the media.

was lo-co driver with the ryans,now long haul "operator" with someone else and i have to say my handling skills are a fraction of what they used to be lo-co does not mean lo-quality!!!!!!!

so i do have faith that these guys did a good job with very little time available.

fingers crossed,we shall wait and see
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FROM THE RYANAIR WEBSITE

Ryanair Flight FR4102 from Frankfurt-Hahn to Rome-Ciampino suffered multiple bird strikes to both engines on its landing approach to Rome-Ciampino airport early this morning (Monday, 10th November 2008). The aircraft landed and was brought to an emergency stop on the runway by the Captain. All passengers exited the aircraft safely and have been brought to the terminal building. The aircraft and its engines are currently being inspected by Ryanair engineers to assess any damage as a result of this incident.
A further update will be available at 10.30am GMT with any further news or information available.
Additional Information:
Passengers on Board
- 166 passengers
- 6 crew
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:43
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Hearing multiple bird ingestion on 1 engine during approach, decision to Go-Around, multiple bird injestion on 2nd engine. Aircraft stoped a couple of meters from the end of the runway with left main gear colapsed and all slides deployed. No apperant injuries.
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If the landing gear collapsed, does anyone have any idea why this happened?
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:52
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If the landing gear collapsed, does anyone have any idea why this happened?
Well, if the post above yours has any truth in it, one can make a pretty good guess

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Old 10th Nov 2008, 08:53
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Chaps, can we stick to the details and leave out this nonsense?
No news anywhere yet just the Ryanair website, I hope the Media give the pilots praise for a job well done like the BA pilots, but my feelings tell me because we are a low cost airline it will be the opposite
Whatever comments will be made afterwards will no doubt be made once the Pprune Courts Martial has made a judgement and various armchair experts, flight sim enthusiasts and 14 year old boys have delivered their verdict. We don't have to express an opinion on every posting like those ghoulish 'expressions of sympathy' in every posting in a fatal accident thread. RYR staff don't need to come across as having an inferiority complex- those in the industry know their technical standards are second to absolutely none.
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Hi-ALT, as a matter of interest, where did you get this information from?
Regards
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To Highlow, I am at LIRA, grounded because of this incident. Went out to have a look at the aircraft, this is the word circulating here! Incidently, I have noticed large flocks of Starlings around the airport recently.
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Fair Play Hi-ALT,

I agree with the sentiments above, no reason to think RYR are not as professional as the next. In fact, due to the nature of their operation, Ryanairs standards and procedures are the envy of many operators.

1) Well Built Aircraft (the main gear must have been presented with an almighty belt to justify any collapse)

2) Well trained Flight Deck & Cabin
Result = No injuries / Fatalies




I am beginning to hate BIRDS more and more


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Old 10th Nov 2008, 09:16
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Another similar thread with a bit of information:

FR's 737 Out Of Runway At CIA — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 09:43
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no gear collaps.

the aicraft is with its left main gear partially on the grass, hence could be interpreted as a gear collaps as the aircraft is seen "slightly bent" to the left but it is not a gear problem, in facts.
Well, I must say, this photo tells me something else...

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Old 10th Nov 2008, 10:05
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SNAM,

What a load of cobblers, have you access to the FDR and CVR already??engines catching fire, engines 'stuck at 40% N1'.

Just wait for the FDR to be reviewed, before letting your imagination run wild.

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