L@ser attacks on Aircraft
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Prison sentence upheld for l@zer louts
Some of you may recall a recent thread concerning two oafs who had targeted a l@zer pen at a police helicopter. They came before HH Judge Tudor Owen at Snaresbrook Crown Court who sentenced them to six months custody.
The Court of Appeal recently considered their appeals and dismissed them observing that in the view of their Lordships the case clearly crossed the custody threshold and such a case could not be dealt with by any lesser penalty.
The Court further observed that His Honour Judge Owen "plainly took a great deal of care over this case." In passing sentence the learned judge said the message should go out that people who target helicopters in this idiotic and dangerous way should expect to receive custodial sentences.
The Court of Appeal recently considered their appeals and dismissed them observing that in the view of their Lordships the case clearly crossed the custody threshold and such a case could not be dealt with by any lesser penalty.
The Court further observed that His Honour Judge Owen "plainly took a great deal of care over this case." In passing sentence the learned judge said the message should go out that people who target helicopters in this idiotic and dangerous way should expect to receive custodial sentences.
"Few cases of this sort come before the court, in part because it is often difficult to apprehend those on the ground.
In our judgment the learned judge was right to make it clear that custodial sentences will usually follow when offenders committing this offence are caught."
In our judgment the learned judge was right to make it clear that custodial sentences will usually follow when offenders committing this offence are caught."
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The Muppets are still at it!
13.09.08
A police investigation is under way after a laser beam was targeted at Aberdeen Airport last night. An airport spokesman told the Press & Journal: ‘There was a report of green laser light being directed onto the airfield from the Overton Garage area.'
Two airport employees reported seeing the light yesterday. Police and airport security staff swooped on the site where the laser light came from – a mile to the north-west of the runway.
A police spokeswoman said: ‘I can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a laser light which occurred at 22:00. Inquiries are at an early stage and are currently on going. But the light was not shone at any aircraft or vehicle.’
A police investigation is under way after a laser beam was targeted at Aberdeen Airport last night. An airport spokesman told the Press & Journal: ‘There was a report of green laser light being directed onto the airfield from the Overton Garage area.'
Two airport employees reported seeing the light yesterday. Police and airport security staff swooped on the site where the laser light came from – a mile to the north-west of the runway.
A police spokeswoman said: ‘I can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a laser light which occurred at 22:00. Inquiries are at an early stage and are currently on going. But the light was not shone at any aircraft or vehicle.’
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I thought the end of this video was something of relevance to the thread - along with lighting things.
Complete watching is encouraged.
YouTube - Green laser - Hulk hand held laser - what can it burn???
Complete watching is encouraged.
YouTube - Green laser - Hulk hand held laser - what can it burn???
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Fascinating to see the side bar ads all trying to sell us lasers on this thread
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The MVPS Hosts File prevents any of these ads displaying. All the pages look normal to me.
(Darn. Now I won't be in the know if I ever want to buy a laser.)
(Darn. Now I won't be in the know if I ever want to buy a laser.)
And of course a small moral victory will be achieved if everyone reading this thread clicks on a few of those links for companies selling these lasers. These companies have to pay Google for every click through to their website, and Pprune then gets a share of this money from Google ....
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There are safety goggles.
Protection Safety Glasses Goggles for 532nm Green laser - eBay (item 220281822768 end time Sep-22-08 07:05:29 PDT)
I guess all cockpits will be equiped with these in the future.
Protection Safety Glasses Goggles for 532nm Green laser - eBay (item 220281822768 end time Sep-22-08 07:05:29 PDT)
I guess all cockpits will be equiped with these in the future.
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Just curious about laser attacks.
Would take one good sniper to put (what distance are we talking about) a beam into the pilots eyes? 500-1500m. Please don't crucify me on this post,
I can't comprehend some kid using a 'pen pointer ' causing all so much disruption.
Would take one good sniper to put (what distance are we talking about) a beam into the pilots eyes? 500-1500m. Please don't crucify me on this post,
I can't comprehend some kid using a 'pen pointer ' causing all so much disruption.
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dazdaz,
You have totally missed the point, as have several other posters here.
These are NOT "pen pointers", but l@zers with over a hundred times the power.
We're talking about the kind used for "l@zer light shows", and for professional applications, such as l@zer marking, and industrial laser cutting.
They are feckin' dangerous when not used under controlled conditions.
Unfortunately, they are still being sold as toys!
You have totally missed the point, as have several other posters here.
These are NOT "pen pointers", but l@zers with over a hundred times the power.
We're talking about the kind used for "l@zer light shows", and for professional applications, such as l@zer marking, and industrial laser cutting.
They are feckin' dangerous when not used under controlled conditions.
Unfortunately, they are still being sold as toys!
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A local gentleman here has just been fined $1,000 for playing with a laser. He pointed it first at a Jazz flight (Dash 8), and then at a police helicopter that was sent to search for the source of the laser. Didn't think that one through very far. This one wasn't on final approach, but the Dash 8s do come over here relatively low.
Calgary laser flasher gets $1,000 fine
Calgary laser flasher gets $1,000 fine
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On the face of it, this would "appear" to be a new report today of 2 fresh incidents at Edinburgh....
Exclusive: Police hunt after pilots are blinded with lasers at Edinburgh Airport - The Daily Record
Exclusive: Police hunt after pilots are blinded with lasers at Edinburgh Airport - The Daily Record
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Unfortunate foresight
I am hardly blaming the chap for being ( for me ) a generally great author, but it's a sad fact that Tom Clancy foresaw both using hijacked airliners as weapons, and deliberately crashing airliners with a Pilot Incapacitation Laser.
I was going to say the 'authorities' had better start thumbing through his backlist to see what other ideas the nutters think worth a try.
Then I remembered ' The Sum of All Fears' ... For those of you who haven't tried it, the story of acquiring a 'mislaid' aircraft Nuke and transporting it by land to a major stadium & population centre.
I doubt the nuts, be they misguided idiots high on cider, or terrorists, are going to find that one easy, so might be worth looking what other schemes Mr.Clancy thought up.
The ironic thing of is course he is a really patriotic guy, I suspect he'd shoot himself rather than influence one attack; his whole message is pro-defence - also though the lack of political will to supply it until too late.
Just pointing out a trend ?
I was going to say the 'authorities' had better start thumbing through his backlist to see what other ideas the nutters think worth a try.
Then I remembered ' The Sum of All Fears' ... For those of you who haven't tried it, the story of acquiring a 'mislaid' aircraft Nuke and transporting it by land to a major stadium & population centre.
I doubt the nuts, be they misguided idiots high on cider, or terrorists, are going to find that one easy, so might be worth looking what other schemes Mr.Clancy thought up.
The ironic thing of is course he is a really patriotic guy, I suspect he'd shoot himself rather than influence one attack; his whole message is pro-defence - also though the lack of political will to supply it until too late.
Just pointing out a trend ?
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The man.. (ok he was 19 but so are many soldiers) aimed a laser at an aircraft. he then tried to blind the crew of the police helicopter who were dispatched to try to find him. This isnt high spirits hes an arsehole who knew exactly what he was doing. He also has not had a job, ever... so he just thought he would liven things up by trying to cause an aircraft crash. Hes in court next month and I hope he gets a custodial sentance.
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How about putting him in a sim, set up for landing, then at the approriate moment, 'blind' him; if he lands perfectly, halve the hopefully stiff sentence; if not, double it !
Also introduce him to families of crash victims - I suspect they'd be only too willing to help educate.
That might give him something to reflect upon, pardon the pun.
And no, don't care if he can fly so much as a PC...
Also introduce him to families of crash victims - I suspect they'd be only too willing to help educate.
That might give him something to reflect upon, pardon the pun.
And no, don't care if he can fly so much as a PC...