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Old 21st Aug 2011, 12:53   #561 (permalink)
 
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L@sers, being coherent monochromatic light, are very easy to detect and protect against. I hope that there are counter-measures already in development and trials. The science is straightforward.
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Old 21st Aug 2011, 13:51   #562 (permalink)
 
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Apologies Blue Wolf

A long time ago....In a thread much like this...I belittled someone re: dangers posed by l@ser light.

That person proceeded to nail me to the extent that 4 PPRuNe users were barred...


I have subsequently become a victim of such an attack, and I realise now the safety implications.

Blue Wolf. You were entirely correct.

l@sers pose a real and valid threat to air traffic.

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Old 6th Sep 2011, 13:39   #563 (permalink)
 
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Another one reported - Edinburgh this time.

BBC News - Warning over l@ser shone at plane landing in Edinburgh
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 15:40   #564 (permalink)
 
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Check this 'super l@ser' out, reported in the Mail

Never mind pilots, this green l@ser is so powerful it can dazzle satellites - and it's freely on sale | Mail Online
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 17:31   #565 (permalink)
 
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Reported to heve happened twice in recent weeks with a/c on approach to LUX.
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 19:33   #566 (permalink)
 
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1W is serious

Pointers are usually 1-5mW, maybe 10mW at the extreme.

1W is serious, especially at green where the eye's response is most sensitive.
I've no idea what a legitimate use of such a device would be: lamping rabbits in the next county?

For $300 the frequency stability will surely be all over the place, leaving plenty of fingerprints for the police helicopters' fancy new forensic l@ser spectrograph thingy, (BBC NEWS | UK | New weapon targets l@ser attackers). (Unless it gets burned out by the l@ser pointer.) Hopefully, the focus will be rotten too, getting less energy per eye in the sky.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:04   #567 (permalink)
 
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So, very recently I was at a wedding the reception of hich was adjacent to a major international airport. As the celebrations turned to evening and the DJ started up, on came the l@ser machine. Now this particular venue has roof windows..

just some cursory research shows that a 30MW green l@ser, such as would be used can be purchased of 144.00 and an 80MW for 240.00

now this set me to wonder, as how many inadvertent events actually occur and how many people and venues that operate such equipment have any inkling of the inhenerent dangers.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:31   #568 (permalink)
 
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We were targeted with a green l@ser light a few nights ago over Cap Antibes, 04R ILS for Nice. On mentioning the incident to Tower we were told that it was a usual occurrence.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 19:29   #569 (permalink)
 
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One a bit close to (my) home! (SOU)

Just noticed this on BBC South

“29 August 2011Last updated at 14:11

Lasers shone at plane coming into Southampton airport
A Flybe pilot reported l@ser pens being shone into the cockpit of his aircraft as he was coming into land at Southampton airport on Saturday.
The crew of a police helicopter was also targeted as they investigated the incident at about 21:30 BST.Thermal imaging cameras were used to locate suspects at two addresses in Bitterne. Three people were arrested on suspicion of endangering an aircraft.
Police said three l@ser pens were recovered.
Two youths, both aged 17, and a man, aged 20, were held in custody overnight.
Police said the 20-year-old received a caution and the youths were referred to the Youth Offending Team.”

Why bother to catch them when there is such a pathetic “punishment”?
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 11:09   #570 (permalink)
 
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Perhaps more serious punishment will be considered should these be caught.

Man dies after yobs stop air ambulance landing in Calne (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 11:35   #571 (permalink)

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For $300 the frequency stability will surely be all over the place
Unfortunately not, figures from the manufacturers spec sheet...

Beam divergence 1.5mRad, beam diameter 2mm, NOHD 149 Meters and Beam distance @ 0.25 Lux 6856 Meters.

This is a seriously dangerous l@ser and how the manufacturer can say they can sell it legally is beyond comprehension.
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Old 12th Sep 2011, 09:30   #572 (permalink)
 
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Yet another one! And in rural Somerset. When will these people learn?

Laser 'attack' on police helicopter in Chard (From Chard & Ilminster News)

I have had several attacks myself from the dreaded green l@ser- in Amsterdam, the Hague, Cardiff, Bristol and Thirsk in Yorkshire. Several of them have been particularly bright and directed directly at the flight deck. Luckily, it did not affect the vision of myself or the first officer- we were able to look away in time.

I do hope that the magistrates in the case above read this forum and can realise just how dangerous it is when these idiots shine l@sers at aircraft. A prison sentence should be mandatory to send out a signal to the other numpties out there who wish to prove to their numpty friends how funny it is to shine a l@ser at an aircraft.

What happens when such an episode causes an accident (as is likely one day)?
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 13:23   #573 (permalink)
 
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Quite impressive...

Laser Pointer Leads to Arrest - YouTube
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 14:40   #574 (permalink)
 
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We were hit twice on the same approach to BHX in the beginning of october this year, once on base and once on final.
By the time we landed, they had already arrested the first one...
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 14:52   #575 (permalink)
 
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Landing from the south in Jeddah now, you are nearly guaranteed to be nailed by l@sers. They are installed on top of buildings now, and actually pointing toward the glide path on rwy 34. I have reported it to tower before and they say yes, they know about it. Pretty damn stupid.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 23:25   #576 (permalink)
 
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Quite impressive...
Good job for drones.

Who were the guys making the arrest, quite a few of them did not appear to have hats on like local cops.

Were they ATF ?
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 23:08   #577 (permalink)
 
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Exclamation Teenager charged for laser attack

A teenager in France is getting 3 months suspended jail sentence for aiming l@ser at aircraft on approach in Paris CDG airport.

Article here (french): Condamné pour avoir ébloui des pilotes d'avions au l@ser - Yahoo!

The subject has probably been dealt with in other threads, but I won't search the whole site for this one.

I read recently the US is moving in this direction too, i.e. making it an offence to aim l@ser beams at aircraft, and actually starting to enforce it.

The article mentions 2800 l@ser attacks in France for 2010, but I suspect it is much more, considering the number of times (in other countries) I have reported to ATC on finals and they don't seem to give a damn, just the usual ""ah...OK".

I used to get l@sers at least once or twice a month in Europe, flying short haul for about 80 hours per month. Am I seeing things or is this what other pilots experience too?

Opinions welcome!
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 23:18   #578 (permalink)
 
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Suspended sentence?
He should have gotten three months 'tout court', and with somebody shining a l@ser at him through the hole in his cell door every evening.....
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 23:32   #579 (permalink)
 
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Interesting you should mention that. I just read an article describing the situation in the US and specifically California. There were over 2,000 instances of l@sers pointed at aircraft in the US last year, and LAX is considered one of the worst airports.

Rising trend of l@ser-pointing at planes, helicopters | abc7.com

The Feds recently passed a law making the act a felony (roughly equivalent to an indictable offense in the UK) with penalty up to $11,000 per event. We'll see if it has any effect.
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 00:25   #580 (permalink)
 
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The Feds recently passed a law making the act a felony (roughly equivalent to an indictable offense in the UK) with penalty up to $11,000 per event. We'll see if it has any effect.
Laws have minimal effect, it's the punishment that applies that might have an effect.

I doubt that "up-to $$$" would mean anything to a teen ager who isn't going to pay it anyhow
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