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Old 3rd November 2009, 20:32   #2621 (permalink)
 
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In a way, I'm with DERG on this. Time to call in ye old pump engineer. Tell to bring his cavitation check list. Go down it item by item. One of them hasn't been looked at hard.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 21:29   #2622 (permalink)
 
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Generally speaking, if you have something to add, add it. Hide and seek is for children.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 23:49   #2623 (permalink)
 
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For me?

bearfoil said:
Generally speaking, if you have something to add, add it. Hide and seek is for children.


I did. Over a year ago. In detail.
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Old 4th November 2009, 18:35   #2624 (permalink)
 
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Devil Grip The Nettle

Heat the fuel lines, make sure the pumps don't cavitate, condition the fuel as necessary, and insulate/heat the tanks AND make sure the software/hardware to monitor this works...as in "able to talk to each other"..maybe even developed as one unit!!

I bet $50k that somewhere there is a memo to the same sitting in a desk somewhere..... It is a sad reflection on humanity that problems like this in times of war are solved quickly.
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Old 5th November 2009, 17:47   #2625 (permalink)
 
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DERG, I am not sure I am following you here.

First you suggest the problem is not identified...

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I find it very disturbing why the reason for this failure cannot be found.
Then start suggesting solutions relating to fuel ice!

As I understand it, the AAIB identified fuel ice as the 'most probable' cause and solutions are being worked upon as we speak, with modified SOP in the interim. So your issue is?

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make sure the pumps don't cavitate
I would suggest that cavitation was more of a symptom that a cause. And dare I even suggest it was an important clue.
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Old 5th November 2009, 22:24   #2626 (permalink)
 
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What became of the BA 777

It has been some time now since a BA 777 arrived just short of the runway in London, and after the company announced there would be a report out in 30 days (after the incident) all has gone quiet, I do live under a rock, but has anyone else heard anything??
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Old 5th November 2009, 22:57   #2627 (permalink)
 
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You must live under a rock!!! There is a large thread relating to this incident!! The roll back was caused by a build up of ice in the fuel heat exchange. The plane had gone through some extremely cold air on it's route to lhr. RR has reworked the plate exchange now I believe. The plane was wrote off.
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