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Old 28th July 2008, 17:21   #1 (permalink)
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Qantas makes emergency landing ADL (Adelaide)

AFP reporting loss of door on Qantas forcing emergency landing at ADL Adelaide. Also being reported on Sky. Incident reported Late monday night Aus time

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Old 28th July 2008, 17:30   #2 (permalink)
 
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Coo, its all go here, isn't it!

Hoping that this was a false alarm, in heightened circumstances.

If not, hope all are safe and am sure that the crew did a fine job. One that will be misrepresented by the bumbling hacks rushing to generate some sales/page views/whatever.

Let the speculators commence
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Old 28th July 2008, 17:32   #3 (permalink)
 
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Fresh scare over Qantas flight
BY CLAIRE LOW AND KATELYN JOHN
28/07/2008 11:24:00 PM
Qantas authorities were investigating last night another in-flight emergency which saw one of its aircraft forced out of the sky.
Passengers on board a Melbourne-bound Qantas flight from Adelaide told the ABC the aircraft had to return to Adelaide Airport because of a mechanical problem.

Passenger Rocco Russo said he heard a rattling noise about 10 minutes after take-off.

The pilot told passengers there was a problem with a door closing above the plane's wheel.

A Qantas spokeswoman said last night that flight number 692 from Adelaide to Melbourne performed a routine air turnback shortly after take-off because of an indication of one of the landing gear doors failing to retract.

The plane landed without incident and all passengers were accommodated on other flights.

"There was no risk to safety at any time," she said.
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Old 28th July 2008, 17:37   #4 (permalink)
 
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QANTAS


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There is no 'U' in Qantas...

BBC saying it's Melbourne.

Oh well, it's all one place, really: 'South Eastern Australia' according to the wine bottles.
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Old 28th July 2008, 18:30   #5 (permalink)
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Who is they subcontracted their maintenance out to again ?
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Old 28th July 2008, 18:45   #6 (permalink)
 
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Reported on MSNBC

The US cable news network MSNBC is reporting this event. The anchors claim that passengers said there was "chaos" on board.
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Old 28th July 2008, 19:11   #7 (permalink)
 
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I love how they were "forced out of the sky".

How does that work actually?
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Old 28th July 2008, 19:33   #8 (permalink)
 
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QF is loosing more doh then they're making these days..shame..shame..shame..well not really who cares they kind of earned it.They had a choice so can't be sympathetic.
Anyway..anyone noticed the CH9 morning news background picture is a constant QF logo even when they are talking about something totally irrelevant to QF or flying itself.It's been like that for the past few days or longer.Some ones gotta personal grudge I say...

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Old 28th July 2008, 19:51   #9 (permalink)
 
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Apparently the nose gear door of the 767 did not close properly.

AdelaideNow... Qantas flight returns to Adelaide after undercarriage problem

Passengers speak of "terrible vibrations" and "absolute chaos on board" (so what else is new?)
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Old 28th July 2008, 20:17   #10 (permalink)
 
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Sounds to me like a press sensationalised air turn back. Air turn backs are quite commonplace. I doubt it would have been of any interest whatsoever had the 747 thing not happened beforehand.
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Old 28th July 2008, 20:36   #11 (permalink)
 
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From parts of the hull parting company with the rest of the aircraft, to laughing gas in oxygen tanks, total electrical failures and now dodgy under-carrage doors. Is this just a case of increased reporting and awareness, are incidents such as these going on elsewhere with aviation or has something fundamentally gone wrong with Qantas.
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Old 28th July 2008, 20:50   #12 (permalink)
 
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PC767 indicates to me a total lack of awareness of the redundancy-upon-redundancy built into the commercial aviation system. Of the many many thousands of parts in an airliner, despite the best attention of the wrenchbenders, occasionally something doesn't work quite right and the journos shove a microphone & camera in an inconvenienced pax's face and ask "How does that make you feel?" (That's what they're trained to do!)

If journalism had 1% of the professional integrity of a good airline, you'd see a HUGE difference in its product.
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Old 28th July 2008, 20:57   #13 (permalink)
 
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No, I understand all that barit, my point was has Qantas traded its reputation to save some cash or is the press hounding and picking on the company.
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Old 28th July 2008, 21:14   #14 (permalink)
 
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From parts of the hull parting company with the rest of the aircraft, to laughing gas in oxygen tanks, total electrical failures and now dodgy under-carrage doors. Is this just a case of increased reporting and awareness, are incidents such as these going on elsewhere with aviation or has something fundamentally gone wrong with Qantas.
yes, I believe that you have hit the nail on the head
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Old 28th July 2008, 21:57   #15 (permalink)

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does PPRuNe still filter "bad" words, and if so can we make "Quantas" one of them?
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Old 28th July 2008, 23:34   #16 (permalink)
 
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Video footage shows VH-TJU but we all know how the media get it wrong !

If it was TJU it is just got back from C check at MAS in KL.
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Old 28th July 2008, 23:47   #17 (permalink)
 
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QF692 OGK B767 ADL MEL 28/7. Left main gear failed to retract after takeoff, returned to adl for an ops normal landing. Some noise and vibrations associated with flying around with the gear down. Not sure where they got "chaos on board", pax and crew were calm and collected at all times...
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Old 28th July 2008, 23:49   #18 (permalink)
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Do any QF people know whether QF692 was a 738,a 734 (VH-TJU) or a 767 as has been alleged elsewhere ?
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Old 29th July 2008, 00:06   #19 (permalink)
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I think it's a timely reminder that the media look at forums such as this and for all we know get most of their info from them...and possibly start these threads to get some more info for the morning editions (QUANTAS )

On TV this morning while showing video footage of a 737 reported that it was a 767 that had problems.

It is this sort of journalistic inaccuracy that annoys most of us...and personally makes me wonder how many other stories are just as erroneous.

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Old 29th July 2008, 00:18   #20 (permalink)
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It is this sort of journalistic inaccuracy that annoys most of us...and personally makes me wonder how many other stories are just as erroneous.
Having been near the action on some news items (not aviation-related), I can assure you that the errors aren't confined to aviation. Indeed, a group of us were collecting press reports after one event and laughing at how many reporters had totally misunderstood things, focussed on irrelevant bits or had apparently just copied someone else's story and reworded it slightly. A friend who was at a ManU football game somewhere in Europe once had a totally different story on "crowd trouble" to what was reported in the press. Basically apply a pinch of salt to whatever you read and note that in some cases a much bigger pinch is required.

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