Risky IL-76 Take-off Captured on Video
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Once saw one getting off 03L at Jo'burg - one of the longest runways anywhere - and he used THE LOT. Then again, we were at the hold and for much of the run all we could see was a pall of smoke, so the only reason I know he used so much was when we finally saw him emerge from the self-induced cloud... Not a hot day, late-June, but still at 5500'AMSL he needed most of the 14500' available!
Another Ilyushin leaving little room for error...
Another Ilyushin leaving little room for error...
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Originally Posted by ImpairedHearing
Not the first time really, PIA out of MAN, countless Ilyushins out of HKT - not to mention the odd EK A340 in Jo'burg a while ago
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I've just remembered seeing a video of the first pax carrying 747 out of Bournemouth...a spectator in the background can be heard saying something along the lines of 'oh my god, its not gonna make it'! Not quite as tight as the Il-76, but impressive nonetheless 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feGZ4l5fk4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feGZ4l5fk4Q
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Perkin let me remind you that was an western aircraft. We are allowed to crash them. Different rules for us. We are so "perfect" that we are allowed to screw everything and use any excuse.
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Why the fuss
Thats what i experience in the A340/300 everytime we close to max take off weights.
Thinking the IL76 has a better chance of survival as he has no computers that restrict the amount of movement of the flying surfaces
Thinking the IL76 has a better chance of survival as he has no computers that restrict the amount of movement of the flying surfaces
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Yes, I just realised that I'd posted a vid of a western aircraft doing a very similar thing to the IL-76, thus blowing the Russian 'cowboy' sentiment out of the water to some extent! I guess as it was a western aircraft operating from a UK airport, it was just a well calculated take-off...! It does look quite scary though, it just keeps coming and coming until it finally lifts off... 
At least the IL-76 wasnt stuffed full of pax...
At least the IL-76 wasnt stuffed full of pax...
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As I recall it TODA isn't necessarily all on the ground...bit of clearway, anyone?
I don't know how it stacks up on the runway in question, though. General observation.
nterstingly, Jepp shows the TORA for 17 as 2683, with a TODA of 3273. As these guys lifted off at the threshold, it seems to me that they were on the ground for about 600m of roll (past the end of the TORA) when they shouldn't have been.
I don't know how it stacks up on the runway in question, though. General observation.
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Not trying to justify that t/o as it was pretty bad but I am doing exams at the moment and thought that you had to be halfway to the screen height by the end of the TORA according to ICAO. Is that right or am I going to fail my exams?
scooby79, no you wont fail:
"TORA=Takeoff runway the aircraft must be airborne at V2 [for the accelerate-go] at 35' above the end of the TORA with one engine inoperative: for all engines the FAR TORA includes a safety factor of [half the airborne distance to 35' plus 15%"
but, in post #9--- I described a scenario possible with older types
"TORA=Takeoff runway the aircraft must be airborne at V2 [for the accelerate-go] at 35' above the end of the TORA with one engine inoperative: for all engines the FAR TORA includes a safety factor of [half the airborne distance to 35' plus 15%"
but, in post #9--- I described a scenario possible with older types
The extension at YSCB is has only been completed in the last couple of years or so. By looking at it I think that this was before it was done. Back then TORA and TODA were the same.
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Originally Posted by [URL="http://www.pprune.org/forums/member.php?u=194610
If I am not mistaken, rotation happens at the level of the TDZ markings next to the aiming point and lift off is at the aiming point markings, thus 1500 ft and 1000 ft before the threshhold.