Do328 off runway at Aberdeen
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Do328 off runway at Aberdeen
City Star D328 just gone off the end of 34. Weather at time EGPD 221950Z 30007KT 190V340 9999 FEW028 13/09 Q1008 NOSIG Almost reached the new localiser aerials.... Looks like no damage to aircraft except maybe a bit stuck... All inbounds now diverting.
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Better half just called from Edinburgh - was due ABZ about 1hr ago - powers that be just 'advised' that ABZ will not open for biz again this evening - as far as they're concerned - don't know about helos - sounds (hopefully) like an overshoot and no major drama but then 34/16 is only about 100yrds...
...hang on! They're off to Aberdeen again, only took an hour too....
...hang on! They're off to Aberdeen again, only took an hour too....
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2 helis out allowed to land over at Bond, now being towed across. A Dornier 328 should not have a problem, even with ABZ's 6000 foot runway so I suspect the AAIB might want a close look at this one. Heard through people in the know that some sort of increase in power after landing has caused problems recently on the a/c.
Easyjet only aircraft waiting to depart (well, Malaga would have been if it got in!) and allowed to depart on 16 if performance will allow with the conditions. A/c inbound but think it's small, then so is a 328
Flights due in after event were:- Monarch Malaga (in EDI), BMI's AMS & LHR, BA's LHR & LGW, AF's CDG, Eastern's SOU & NCL, KLM's AMS & finally City Star's Oslo. Twas the City Star Stavangar that had the problem.
Easyjet only aircraft waiting to depart (well, Malaga would have been if it got in!) and allowed to depart on 16 if performance will allow with the conditions. A/c inbound but think it's small, then so is a 328
Flights due in after event were:- Monarch Malaga (in EDI), BMI's AMS & LHR, BA's LHR & LGW, AF's CDG, Eastern's SOU & NCL, KLM's AMS & finally City Star's Oslo. Twas the City Star Stavangar that had the problem.
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BBC initial report.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/5108356.stm
Describes this as an incident and notes,
Describes this as an incident and notes,
...The passengers disembarked safely and there were no reports of injuries. The Air Accident Investigation Branch is expected to travel to the scene.
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Heard through people in the know that some sort of increase in power after landing has caused problems recently on the a/c
Probably more like a power lever jammed at flight idle which is a gotcha on the Dornier and only saying this as it has happened to me at Lcy and dispatch had to bring me a roll of andrex!!!!
No one hurt that's the main thing
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cheeky dornier snaps
Greetz peeps,
Dyce photographer has posted initial pictures at;
http://www.pbase.com/gary2880/city_star_incident
Dyce photographer has posted initial pictures at;
http://www.pbase.com/gary2880/city_star_incident
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Diverted a/c now landing except a few. The wind is meant to come round from the South Friday so maybe some disruption for inbounds early on as aircarft 1000ft approx from threshold. Leaving the airport tonight it looked as though the 328 had just been left alone, presumably for until the AAIB arrive.
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as aircarft 1000ft approx from threshold
Type stipulates runway of 1,000m/3,300ft for landing (against ABZ 6,000ft??)
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Didnt make it
Easyjet only aircraft waiting to depart (well, Malaga would have been if it got in!) and allowed to depart on 16 if performance will allow with the conditions. A/c inbound but think it's small, then so is a 328
Other aircraft departed on 16. Inbound only on 34 and was only ndb or visual approach.
Glad everybody was alright though.
The interview with passenger who is quoted on the BBC website was played on the Today program on Radio 4 this morning. It was the antithesis of the usual "screaming" interview. He was very calm and controlled and at the end said something along the lines of wanting to thank City Star for their professionalism. It seemed to set the tone for the BBC coverage.
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Even with one (or both) props not going into beta range wheel brakes should be sufficient on 6000' in a Do328.......
Can't be just that, but I am sure the investigation will find a nice swiss cheese model for this one as well.
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Can't be just that, but I am sure the investigation will find a nice swiss cheese model for this one as well.
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Thankfully it didn't happen at London City! Interesting to see the catering guy taking the bar off while the Capt and F/O stand nearby. (Get the important work done first eh??)
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No sandwiches for the crew then, just tea & biccies 
Glad everyone walked away.
think the council may approve the 300m runway extension after all
Glad everyone walked away.
think the council may approve the 300m runway extension after all
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Do328 has 2 latches which must be lifted and held up (once at flight idle stops) allowing movement into ground idle then reverse. However if the power lever/s are not totally flush with the stops the latch/s will NOT lift and the power lever/s will jam. The only way to sort this is to advance the power levers back into flight idle and try again! Bearing in mind that if the Fo is flying, from the point of recognition then declaring to the capt the problem, then the capt assuming control lots of runway has already passed by. If this was the case Yes the brakes would stop the a/c but it would probably come to rest in a similar position to the one in Abz.
P.s in no way am I saying this is what happened at Abz, i'm just answering a previous question.
P.s in no way am I saying this is what happened at Abz, i'm just answering a previous question.
mmmm....
It appears that in this case the absence of the extra 300 meter of runway actually contributed to stopping the aircraft. It was slowed down by the grass and dirt rather than the smooth concrete of an extended runway....
It appears that in this case the absence of the extra 300 meter of runway actually contributed to stopping the aircraft. It was slowed down by the grass and dirt rather than the smooth concrete of an extended runway....
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Flight Idle stop problem seems to be a red herring in my opinion, the pax said they were told to assume the brace position. I'm assuming the crew wouldn't have had time to do this after touchdown, so there must have been a system warning or caution on the approach that required the brace position.
Brakes, anti-skid, hydraulics, gear, flaps maybe?
Brakes, anti-skid, hydraulics, gear, flaps maybe?
