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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:42   #1 (permalink)
 
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Manchester collision?

Wife just called - Bloomberg reporting 'a collision at Manchester airport'... any more known?

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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:44   #2 (permalink)
 
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ITV News Channel just reported:-

"Two aircraft collided at Manchester Airport"
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:46   #3 (permalink)
 
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Not confirmed with my own eyes but i believe that a Excel aircraft has collided with a BMI aircraft causing damage to the tail of the BMI. Also understand that it has been declared a major incident and has closed runway 24L.

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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:46   #4 (permalink)
 
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PA-GENFAX18:44GMT
Two planes collided on a runway at Manchester Airport today while taxiing to take off.
The tail of a Boeing 737 with 79 passengers on board clipped the wing of an Excel Airways 767 with 255 passengers on board, a spokeswoman for the airport said.
Both aircraft were on the ground preparing to depart on runway two at 4.27pm.
There were no reported casualties, the spokeswoman said.
Emergency services were scrambled and passengers from both planes were evacuated.
Air Accident Investigation Branch officials are at the scene.
Excel Airways flight XLA 340 was departing to Goa. The other plane – bmibaby flight WW3007 – was on its way to Belfast International.
“All passengers have been taken off the planes by the steps and bussed out to a lounge,” the spokeswoman added.
There was no disruption to any other services.
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A spokesman for bmibaby said: “We can confirm there was an incident at Manchester Airport which involved a bmibaby aircraft being damaged.
“We are not aware of any injuries to passengers or crew.
“The incident is currently being investigated. Passengers have returned to the terminal building and an alternative aircraft is being arranged to take passengers to their final destinations.”
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:47   #5 (permalink)
 
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no casualties reported.

passengers from both planes were removed and the emergency services are trying to establish the circumstances surrounding the collision, which happened on the ground
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 16:47   #6 (permalink)
 
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ITV News Channel update - now reporting:-

" two planes collided at Manchester airport. All passengers removed from both planes. No reported injuries."
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:06   #7 (permalink)
 
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Collision @ MAN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/3983795.stm
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:08   #8 (permalink)
 
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BBC News Report says the aircraft "collided while taxiing on a runway".

I assume they mean taxiway? Arrivals and departures don't seem to be affected.

Edit: Diabolus beat me to it!
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:15   #9 (permalink)
 
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As per Sky News 1758:


Two planes have collided at Manchester Airport, it has been reported.

Initial reports say there were no casualties sustained in the crash, which happened at about 5pm.


Emergency crews are at the scene attempting to establish the circumstances surrounding the collision.

A spokesman for Manchester police said: "It was not serious.

"There were no reports of injuries. About 70 people have been evacuated from one of the planes.

"The other is now being evacuated."
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:30   #10 (permalink)
 
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BBC News Report says the aircraft "collided while taxiing on a runway".

I assume they mean taxiway? Arrivals and departures don't seem to be affected.
Why? It's entirely possible to taxi on a runway...
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BBC News reporting that it was a Baby 737 to BFS (79 pax) and an Excel B767 to Goa (255 pax). They are reporting that they clipped wings.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:40   #12 (permalink)
 
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heard from a good source that it was excel, don't know who else was involved tho.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:48   #13 (permalink)

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The tail of a Boeing 737 with 79 passengers on board clipped the wing of an Excel Airways 767
What was the 737 doing going backwards without looking?
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:57   #14 (permalink)
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Incoming rant !
First point please. I do not wish to detract from the Aviation related aspects of this incident and my post has nothing to do with whatever has transpired. The facts will be ascertained in due course.

Second point. Sensationalist journo's Watched Granada Reports and the presenter spouting that "two aircraft have crashed at Manchester Airport" followed by equally vacuous reporter saying that one was an Excel and one a BMI baby--two hitherto unknown types then ??--and that they had not actually crashed--such an emotive word--has much more impact ( no pun intended ) than collide after all--and, both here and in subsequent reports and you could palpably feel the frustration in their voices--there were NO casualties---oh, and one report that no disruption to other services etc or that the Airport was closed.

I really get off when these self important and well paid "reporters" feel that whenever Aviation is involved they have to be as dramatic as possible to present the report.

Journo found with active brain. Journo found with factual report. Journo manages to link both together. It'll never happen !.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 17:58   #15 (permalink)
 
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I see the press are jumping up and down about it !

I Quote BBC

"this is not the first incident" "are they ATC issues at the airport"

They dont half make a song and dance about these things without having all the facts !

Suppose it's their job!!!
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 18:07   #16 (permalink)
 
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Journalists would be less likely to get over-excited about these things if over-excited 'aviation enthusiasts' with scanners didn't constantly phone up with breathless accounts of mysterious collisions at busy airports. That is exactly what happened with the Air Malta at GLA the other week and exactly what happened here. These people don't help the aviation industry and they make it more difficult for airport press officers to communicate the actual facts.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 18:47   #17 (permalink)
 
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Surprisingly, it's not necessarily spotters who call up. It could be anyone, from airport staff, police/fire/ambulance people who usually have good contacts with the press.

Knowing the media as well as I do, it's more likely to come from them, than from a spotter. Credible newsrooms always check with an official source first.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 18:50   #18 (permalink)
 
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Whatever may or may not have occurred here, I'm pretty sure that aviation enthusiasts are not to blame for it! And the media do tend to notice when an emergency services turn-out occurs. Many of the finest people in this industry started out as aviation enthusiasts. Pompous, self-righteous gits who try to exclude the public from our airports do this industry a gross dis-service.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 19:39   #19 (permalink)
 
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Spotters don't need to ring the papers - many monitor the frequencies themselves. At a place where I once worked, a PBX operator used to phone a daily paper with details of emergency turn-outs as soon as they happened!!

"Spotters" might well be professional people, considerably more qualified than those on here who criticise them. It would be as well to keep that in mind!
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 19:47   #20 (permalink)
 
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Great post, Heathrow Director. Thank you

Cheers,

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