Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

Australia's helicopter industry?

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

Australia's helicopter industry?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11th Jun 2017, 19:18
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: San Francisco CA
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Australia's helicopter industry?

I've heard Australia's helicopter industry was growing 7-8%yr and now it's almost stopped growing, anybody have any insights on what's going on in Australia?
Chris Pochari is offline  
Old 11th Jun 2017, 22:16
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: north or south
Age: 51
Posts: 592
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Everyone is under cutting everyone else.....
ersa is offline  
Old 11th Jun 2017, 23:51
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OZ
Posts: 281
Received 19 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by ersa
Everyone is under cutting everyone else.....
Now that every company requires about 5 office staff for every crew member, savings have to be made. So obviously pilots are the easy target.

I'm certain several companies are planning to get rid of the last of their pilots to pay for an IT upgrade, and a new computer based "Safety System".


The less flying. The happier CASA are as well.

Australian avaiation is under attack from several fronts.
Twist & Shout is offline  
Old 11th Jun 2017, 23:57
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,509
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Any small scale industry will show wild swings of growth and retraction on a year to year basis.





.
Flying Binghi is offline  
Old 12th Jun 2017, 00:57
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: San Francisco CA
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So it's just cyclical, what about mining? how many helicopters are actually used for mining? Maybe the mining boom been the primary reason for high growth in the Australian helicopter industry. since commodity prices started falling in 2012
Chris Pochari is offline  
Old 12th Jun 2017, 06:32
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Australia
Age: 47
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ersa has hit it on the head. In some areas pricing is far lower than it was 10 years ago for the same work. Too many operators, not enough work.
belly tank is offline  
Old 12th Jun 2017, 08:04
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Chris Pochari
So it's just cyclical, what about mining? how many helicopters are actually used for mining? Maybe the mining boom been the primary reason for high growth in the Australian helicopter industry. since commodity prices started falling in 2012
I've heard of a few helicopters that were used for mining but it doesn't work they can only be used once bit hard on the pilots too I think.
fadecdegraded is offline  
Old 12th Jun 2017, 09:55
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: San Francisco CA
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well if not than what is the cause of slow growth in the heli industry since 2014? Not speaking of offshore of course
Chris Pochari is offline  
Old 12th Jun 2017, 23:21
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OZ
Posts: 281
Received 19 Likes on 5 Posts
Some areas of the industry are "discretionary/luxury" like scenic flights and tourist transfers. These areas suffer fast when people tighten the belt.
I've done a fair bit of real estate photography in the past. Next time I do that it will likely be from the ground, with a controller in my hand, unfortunately.
The above two downturns mean low hour jobs are even harder to find.
This reduces the numbers training, so less instructors are required.

As far as mining goes, "stream sampling" used to employ quite a few pilots. I'm pretty sure not much of this goes on any more.

There has also been a move from many smaller machines to fewer larger machines in fire/flood operations. Fewer pilots required, and many fewer less experienced pilots jobs.

Even though the Off-Shore industry seems to be in a race to the bottom as far as conditions go, the fact is there are more jobs than ever in that industry. No one is going to the rigs by boat. Pilots are just changing suits, and working for a different circus.
Twist & Shout is offline  
Old 13th Jun 2017, 12:00
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: here and there
Age: 67
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Industry ( off shore) in Australia can´t be to bad if HNZ has 4 or 5 Canadian Engineers in Broome with working visa´s.
twisted wrench is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2017, 02:37
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Inside the Industry
Posts: 876
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No one is going to the rigs by boat.
But the idea is being actively studied by some oil and gas companies with the goal of replacing helicopters except for SAR and Medevac. New stabilised gangway technology, fast crew vessels and relatively calm conditions could make boat transfer in Australia possible. Boats are being used in Angola in lieu of helicopters.
industry insider is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2017, 05:41
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Posts: 1,849
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
The "metric" used to determine the "growth" may be a little bit suspect.
RVDT is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2017, 10:41
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Somewhere very sunny !
Age: 53
Posts: 338
Received 14 Likes on 6 Posts
Boats are fine for very range jobs but the reason why helicopters are used is because of the range. 135nm south Timor for the Bayu-Undan, 210 nm north of the Kimberly's for the Northern Endeavour, 130nm for the Montara field and 254 nm north of Broome for Prelude and Ithycus field and anything from 80 to 160 nm to lay barges. Short range, Pax don't mind the odd boat transfer but long range they hate it.
Impress to inflate is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.