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At 100 hours I thought I knew it all ... at 500 hours I knew I knew it all... at 5000 hours that frigthens the life out of me
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That's not the entire video...in the complete video, he breaks out in the clear headed toward a coastal region...IT IS A VERY STUPID THING TO DO, I do not think he was in a mountainous region from the start, maybe rolling terrain...I do think this guy has flown this route many times giving him too much confidence...IT IS STILL A VERY STUPID THING TO ATTEMPT EVEN WITH THE AVIONICS HE SO TRUSTS!!!
And as the Irish SAR thread highlighted - it only takes one obstacle not in your database to kill you.
Wires, masts, a mobile crane at a building site, someone putting up a wind turbine etc etc etc
Darwinian selection in action - eventually dumb luck runs out.
Wires, masts, a mobile crane at a building site, someone putting up a wind turbine etc etc etc
Darwinian selection in action - eventually dumb luck runs out.
Why did he keep looking outside? - his scan should have reverted?
I noticed his screen went red for a moment - and his pants brown?
I thank him for putting it video - lowered some of my personal dumb-ass stuff down the ladder a couple of rungs.
I noticed his screen went red for a moment - and his pants brown?
I thank him for putting it video - lowered some of my personal dumb-ass stuff down the ladder a couple of rungs.
Crazy situation to put himself in but he kept it straight and level, broke through and went home.
Personally I would have waited at the departure point.
As a dedicated Scunrudder.....having worked in locales that meant you did or you went broke.....I learned how to do it safely.....well as safely possible.....this video shows me two things......one being having all the Gucci kit is nice and if you rely on it as a primary method of flying fast with no forward vis....you better have no Suicide Clause in your Life Insurance Policy.
Hell ringer - correct - a visual scan is outside with a regular inside on the T&Ps etc.
in fog it should be the other way round - with the odd check outside ......
I guess if he had ap in then no worries - keep on trekking til you either hit something or breakout.
Not sure which rules he was following as I don't think any exist for what he did - but back to the issue of why post the video?
Please don't tell me he was 'caught out' by the weather - he could see it coming from a good distance away
in fog it should be the other way round - with the odd check outside ......
I guess if he had ap in then no worries - keep on trekking til you either hit something or breakout.
Not sure which rules he was following as I don't think any exist for what he did - but back to the issue of why post the video?
Please don't tell me he was 'caught out' by the weather - he could see it coming from a good distance away
Caught out?
Last time I checked....one can land a Jet Ranger most anywhere....even if there is no Pub/Tavern/Cafe/Motel Lounge Bar close by.
Last time I checked....one can land a Jet Ranger most anywhere....even if there is no Pub/Tavern/Cafe/Motel Lounge Bar close by.
Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?
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Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?
If you know, its the only powerline around, it isn't such a bad idea to keep it insight.
Turning away and approaching it later between poles would be worse....
Reminds me of a flight with NVG, hilly wooded area, pushed down by a massive rainshower.
No spot to put the bird down and Radar wasn't any help either, telling me, that I have to expect the same wether in every direction for at least 15 miles :-(
When we spotted a powerline, we stuck to it like clingfilm, even using the landing light, to illuminate the cabels between towers....while looking at the emptying fuelgage, hovering along the line...
With a 1000 NVG HRS more experience now I'm well prepared to avoid such an occurence - but at the time the task seemed legit....
Yes, spotting wires and poles in the dark with the low contrast can be very difficult and the rain just makes it worse!
But they say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
But they say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Now was he doing a powerline inspection flight or was he just following the line feature most likely to kill him and keeping it in sight?
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Correct. For a number of years I had recurring nightmares after being in a helicopter flying just above wires in very poor weather, only to realise we were flying under higher HT cables above us.
On the tales of wires, in a previous life flying a Twin Squirrel for a Victorian TV company the weather was getting worse and vis along with it, so the decision to go IFR for the destination required a paddock landing to get charts, etc, sorted. On touchdown, hopped out and at the end of the next paddock was an HT powerline some 150-200ft high. Never even saw it when circling for landing.
Its the ones you don't see, etc etc.
Its the ones you don't see, etc etc.