Forced landing. Florida 20th April
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Forced landing. Florida 20th April
The BBC are reporting a British Family's experience of a forced landing on a tourist flight in Florida.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-39746654
I'm not qualified to comment but figured it maybe if interest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-39746654
I'm not qualified to comment but figured it maybe if interest.
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On reading the headline I thought "good work getting it down after losing the tail" given the C of G problem but from the photo it looks like it got chopped off during the landing. Nevertheless a good outcome for all involved.
Below the Glidepath - not correcting
Personally, I would have thought that getting it down remarkably intact on one of the few pieces of clear real estate in that area more than qualifies him for his aviation accoutrements.
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Totally agree, and wouldn't dare say I would have done better, because then karma will be hunting for me! That said...
I find a lot of pilots tend to pull back on the cyclic during the slide. I had to conduct a 709 checkride for an Enstrom pilot (CFI) who had an engine failure immediately after takeoff and chopped off the boom. Sure enough, when we would do touchdowns he would try to move the cyclic back (Enstroms, having oleos, are worse because the nose tends to tuck during the slide - it's a very uncomfortable attitude).
Even in an R44 which if flared like a high inertia machine can touch down at minimal ground speed even in calm air, I find people tend to (unconsciously?) try to use aft cyclic to minimize the slide. I try to stress with students that they can move the stick left and right all they want, but once they feel the skids touch, fore/aft is verboten.
I've also become aware that some schools teach their students to rapidly lower collective during the slide, and I know Bell recommends you not leave the collective up during the slide, but I'm reluctant to slam the collective down - I'd rather the blades stay coned until the aircraft stops bouncing around (and I'm worried about digging the skids in if I bottom the collective too quickly). I know I'll get some people telling me I'm wrong to not immediately lower collective once you touch down.
In any case, he got it down and didn't tip over, so I agree that he earned his pay that day.
Personally, I would have thought that getting it down remarkably intact on one of the few pieces of clear real estate in that area more than qualifies him for his aviation accoutrements.
I find a lot of pilots tend to pull back on the cyclic during the slide. I had to conduct a 709 checkride for an Enstrom pilot (CFI) who had an engine failure immediately after takeoff and chopped off the boom. Sure enough, when we would do touchdowns he would try to move the cyclic back (Enstroms, having oleos, are worse because the nose tends to tuck during the slide - it's a very uncomfortable attitude).
Even in an R44 which if flared like a high inertia machine can touch down at minimal ground speed even in calm air, I find people tend to (unconsciously?) try to use aft cyclic to minimize the slide. I try to stress with students that they can move the stick left and right all they want, but once they feel the skids touch, fore/aft is verboten.
I've also become aware that some schools teach their students to rapidly lower collective during the slide, and I know Bell recommends you not leave the collective up during the slide, but I'm reluctant to slam the collective down - I'd rather the blades stay coned until the aircraft stops bouncing around (and I'm worried about digging the skids in if I bottom the collective too quickly). I know I'll get some people telling me I'm wrong to not immediately lower collective once you touch down.
In any case, he got it down and didn't tip over, so I agree that he earned his pay that day.
I'm definitely with you on that . I would always bleed every drop of lift from those blades to reduce the braking .....unless of course you are heading towards an obstacle !
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I've also become aware that some schools teach their students to rapidly lower collective during the slide, and I know Bell recommends you not leave the collective up during the slide, but I'm reluctant to slam the collective down - I'd rather the blades stay coned until the aircraft stops bouncing around (and I'm worried about digging the skids in if I bottom the collective too quickly). I know I'll get some people telling me I'm wrong to not immediately lower collective once you touch down.
The Helicopter is a reusable shipping container to be used to protect the contents.
I would suggest the Captain did an excellent job in this.
He, the other occupants, and the helicopter are all upright and mobile....well so long as a small crane and a wrecker are available for the helicopter.
Well Done that Man!
As to being all sweaty....who would not be if riding around in a Robby giving Tours all day long in Orlando?
I would suggest the Captain did an excellent job in this.
He, the other occupants, and the helicopter are all upright and mobile....well so long as a small crane and a wrecker are available for the helicopter.
Well Done that Man!
As to being all sweaty....who would not be if riding around in a Robby giving Tours all day long in Orlando?
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The Helicopter is a reusable shipping container to be used to protect the contents.
Whoever started that was a student of Gann no doubt....and "Reusable"....connotes multiple uses but at some point becomes no longer fit for further service.
Even in an R44 which if flared like a high inertia machine can touch down at minimal ground speed even in calm air, I find people tend to (unconsciously?) try to use aft cyclic to minimize the slide. I try to stress with students that they can move the stick left and right all they want, but once they feel the skids touch, fore/aft is verboten.
I've also become aware that some schools teach their students to rapidly lower collective during the slide, and I know Bell recommends you not leave the collective up during the slide, but I'm reluctant to slam the collective down - I'd rather the blades stay coned until the aircraft stops bouncing around (and I'm worried about digging the skids in if I bottom the collective too quickly). I know I'll get some people telling me I'm wrong to not immediately lower collective once you touch down.
I've also become aware that some schools teach their students to rapidly lower collective during the slide, and I know Bell recommends you not leave the collective up during the slide, but I'm reluctant to slam the collective down - I'd rather the blades stay coned until the aircraft stops bouncing around (and I'm worried about digging the skids in if I bottom the collective too quickly). I know I'll get some people telling me I'm wrong to not immediately lower collective once you touch down.
