Rogue Pilots in NZ
Given the choice he would not.....but if it was required by SOP's then you would hear him yelling "Geronimo!" As he went off the cliff!
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I agree 100% with you EMS, not only is John Sinclair a joke but the helicopter association as well. Just a bunch of old boys lining there pockets.
That article is a load of rubbish and doesn't reflect the majority of the industry at all.
That article is a load of rubbish and doesn't reflect the majority of the industry at all.
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I have worked very closely with some Kiwis both in UK NS and in Karratha. They definitely did not match the generalisations described in this thread. Solid professional pilots with great humour and friendship. I liked them a lot.
Crab, I loved your response re SOPs a classic simplistic description of an SMS or SOP system. If I may I would like to use that description in my future training.
Crab, I loved your response re SOPs a classic simplistic description of an SMS or SOP system. If I may I would like to use that description in my future training.
DB - feel free
Another description is 'Handrails, not Handcuffs' for SOPs - maybe more akin to the Pirate Code (more guidance than a code)
KJ - you have SOPs and try to adhere to them for safety's sake - sometimes you are presented with a situation way outside the 'Standard' - then you have to use your judgement - that is where it often goes horribly wrong because peoples' judgement is often impaired by many perceived pressures - the classic red mist, pressonitis or target fixation for example.
Another description is 'Handrails, not Handcuffs' for SOPs - maybe more akin to the Pirate Code (more guidance than a code)
KJ - you have SOPs and try to adhere to them for safety's sake - sometimes you are presented with a situation way outside the 'Standard' - then you have to use your judgement - that is where it often goes horribly wrong because peoples' judgement is often impaired by many perceived pressures - the classic red mist, pressonitis or target fixation for example.
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would be interesting to see you guys that are bagging the AIA, put your names on here so that all those "joke, Old Boys" know who NOT to hire when you come looking for a job. Especially considering that the AIA represents something like 50-60% of helicopter operators within NZ and about 80% of the helicopter capacity!
All that has been stated is there is an element of rogue, cowboy type behaviour that does not belong in a professional industry. If that comment bites a bit to hard, then maybe it is a bit to close to home. Every industry has them, doctors, lawyers, car dealers... you name one industry that doesn't have good and bad operators, and why shouldn't we all try to act and fly more professionally each day?
All that has been stated is there is an element of rogue, cowboy type behaviour that does not belong in a professional industry. If that comment bites a bit to hard, then maybe it is a bit to close to home. Every industry has them, doctors, lawyers, car dealers... you name one industry that doesn't have good and bad operators, and why shouldn't we all try to act and fly more professionally each day?
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Hey superF who says anyone is looking for a job, seen the light years ago and got out of the NZ industry, to many jokes and old boys dictating the way the industry was going.
If you are who I'm guessing you are you are probably one of them.
But then again it's only a guess.
Why don't you post your real name so everyone knows who not to work for!!!.
If you are who I'm guessing you are you are probably one of them.
But then again it's only a guess.
Why don't you post your real name so everyone knows who not to work for!!!.
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Wasn't referring to anyone specifically looking for jobs, just in general as there were at least four having a go. Just everyone who is so anti the larger or longer time operators having a bigger say in the industry.
I will let you into a secret on how to get into the "old boys" club in the New Zealand Helicopter industry, just survive more than 10 years. The industry is full of people that have been and gone, that is pilots, operators and engineers that start and disappear after a few years.
I cannot understand the logic in the posts here. Supposedly the NZ Heli industry is a joke. The Heli Association reports on a CAA study that finds that Pilots and Operators in NZ say that there is still an element of rule breaking, and the Association thinks that there isn't room for that in the industry and we should all try to raise our standards, and then you criticize the very people who are trying to raise the standards etc.....
Very hard to please some people.
I will let you into a secret on how to get into the "old boys" club in the New Zealand Helicopter industry, just survive more than 10 years. The industry is full of people that have been and gone, that is pilots, operators and engineers that start and disappear after a few years.
I cannot understand the logic in the posts here. Supposedly the NZ Heli industry is a joke. The Heli Association reports on a CAA study that finds that Pilots and Operators in NZ say that there is still an element of rule breaking, and the Association thinks that there isn't room for that in the industry and we should all try to raise our standards, and then you criticize the very people who are trying to raise the standards etc.....
Very hard to please some people.
