Island Connections and Off Shore time

[I-IIII]

Sorry gulliBell
my question was not well explained,It was just wrote for those that not considering offshore island to island or whatever

[malabo]

Ka26. Log it all as "offshore" and apply.

OGP has boxed the industry into a Catch-22 situation - you can't fly offshore without offshore time and you can't get any offshore time until you fly offshore. So the rest of us were born with 1000 hrs of offshore time I guess. Either that or OGP expects you to build offshore time flying for a non-OGP compliant company until you have the experience to meet their requirements - unconscionable.


Reality is that it is just a box tic, and nobody check up or back. Nobody is going to put you out there as single-pilot captain on your first day offshore. You will fly with experienced pilots that will pass on the operational knowledge required. A doddle, really.

Think about it, all the zero-time cadets that went from an R22 straight to FO on an offshore S92. And you think they are going to be concerned about you?

[gulliBell]

Post #21

Oh. Offshore island to island is not offshore, it's just flight time over water. Which might count for something somewhere, but not OGP. They are looking for in-field experience which makes you operationally useful on day 1 in the new job. Without it, co-pilot, no problem.

[I-IIII]

well!
I would prefer someone that fly 3 time a day sardinia -rome(means 1.30 hrs open water) at others in GOM or Nigeria or whatever that doing 7 NM for to go on rig.

[212man]

I think you just answered your own question right there! Well done.....

Originally Posted by I-IIII

well!
I would prefer someone that fly 3 time a day sardinia -rome(means 1.30 hrs open water) at others in GOM or Nigeria or whatever that doing 7 NM for to go on rig.

[Ant T]

OGP has boxed the industry into a Catch-22 situation - you can't fly offshore without offshore time and you can't get any offshore time until you fly offshore. So the rest of us were born with 1000 hrs of offshore time I guess. Either that or OGP expects you to build offshore time flying for a non-OGP compliant company until you have the experience to meet their requirements - unconscionable.

I think that is overstating the "Catch-22" aspect of OGP slightly.
As far as I understand, it is about the balance of offshore experience in a multi-crew operation. A co-pilot with less than 500 hours of (OGP definition) offshore time can fly offshore, but cannot be crewed with a Captain who has less than 500 hours of P1 offshore time. So a co-pilot brand new to offshore will only be paired with initially a line trainer, and then an "experienced" line Captain, and then when they reach upgrade to Captain, will only be paired with an "experienced" co-pilot until they reach 500 P1 offshore.

I would prefer someone that fly 3 time a day sardinia -rome(means 1.30 hrs open water) at others in GOM or Nigeria or whatever that doing 7 NM for to go on rig.

By that comment, you are misunderstanding the whole point of "offshore" experience in this context. It is not about "open water", or distance from shore. 1.30 x 3 of instrument flying at altitude over water with 6 airport landings has no relevance at all to the particular operational issues involved with offshore oil support. The pilots flying the 7 Nm sector to a Nigerian rig may be doing 20 landings a day on short inter-rig shuttle flights.
No one is trying to make out that the offshore flying is exceptionally difficult, it is just that it has its own set of issues. As we all know (and are frequently reminded by some on this forum), a pilot with extensive offshore experience only, would find many onshore operations to be completely outside their comfort zone until they gained relevant experience in the new role.