UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 5
Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
Thread Starter
UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 5
D-Day minus 2 folks 
Best wishes to everyone.
I pray that whatever decisions are being made at this precise moment, as we that serve sup our elevenses brew, some words are echoing into some ears;
“Safety in police aviation is our priority”
Anyway, what ever happens ...
… atb.
Mods - as this post is number 666, perhaps it's time for a 'UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 5' thread, as we venture into new times?
Best wishes to everyone.
I pray that whatever decisions are being made at this precise moment, as we that serve sup our elevenses brew, some words are echoing into some ears;
“Safety in police aviation is our priority”
Anyway, what ever happens ...
… atb.
Mods - as this post is number 666, perhaps it's time for a 'UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 5' thread, as we venture into new times?
Last edited by SilsoeSid; 20th Feb 2015 at 08:18.
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Devon
Age: 69
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
One man system
Could this be what NPAS have in mind for the future. I could just see Dixon of Dock Green flying it off the office roof 
Hirobo launches remote control one-man helicopter - 10/10/2012 - Flight Global
http://images.gizmag.com/inline/hiro...icopter-11.jpg
http://www.gizmag.com/hirobo-persona...icopter/29684/
Hirobo launches remote control one-man helicopter - 10/10/2012 - Flight Global
http://images.gizmag.com/inline/hiro...icopter-11.jpg
http://www.gizmag.com/hirobo-persona...icopter/29684/
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Guess the whole thing was borne of financial cutbacks, looks like it will continue to be a race to the bottom.
At least those over 55 should leave with a pension. Good luck to those leaving and to those who will be required to carry on with an almost impossible task.
At least those over 55 should leave with a pension. Good luck to those leaving and to those who will be required to carry on with an almost impossible task.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Two years ago it was crucial that the Wattisham operation moved 6 minutes towards Norfolk to better cover Norfolk (who joined NPAS and gave up their asu on that promise) and to cover Cambridgeshire (who gave up their aircraft.......). Have the Met Joined yet?
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Devon
Age: 69
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
How did the conference call go. Was it anything like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KaOJ_jVXI
When the cameras go in the cabs think about this if you've got the radio on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XFBUM8dMqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KaOJ_jVXI
When the cameras go in the cabs think about this if you've got the radio on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XFBUM8dMqw
Last edited by Cabby; 20th Feb 2015 at 00:04. Reason: Camera song
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Down south
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bases being closed
According to Twitter (almost as reliable as pprune) this is the decision on Base closures:
Durham
Warton
Rhuddlan
Halfpenny Green
Ripley
Sheffield
Husbands Bosworth
Wattisham
Pembury
Humberside
Haven't seen an official list but this seems legit.
Durham
Warton
Rhuddlan
Halfpenny Green
Ripley
Sheffield
Husbands Bosworth
Wattisham
Pembury
Humberside
Haven't seen an official list but this seems legit.
What happened to it only being 5 bases?
10 is nearly half of them, and all for a 14% saving??????
6 aircraft around London and non for the whole of East Anglia and the East of England
Those forces with the biggest budgets obviously had the most votes!
10 is nearly half of them, and all for a 14% saving??????
6 aircraft around London and non for the whole of East Anglia and the East of England
Those forces with the biggest budgets obviously had the most votes!
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Cabby :
Prediction for 2016. Change in airframes, cameras in the cab, and closer monitoring of on scene times - forces billed by the minute when on scene.
Change in airframes : To what and why ?
Cameras in cabs : For what purpose ?
Closer time management : Why ?
Do you have any experience what so ever with blue light aviation Cabby ? At least add some explanation to your predictions, as none of them appear to make any sense. So please do tell us why.
I don't post often but I do note your negative tones in relation to "Plod"
Merry
Prediction for 2016. Change in airframes, cameras in the cab, and closer monitoring of on scene times - forces billed by the minute when on scene.
Change in airframes : To what and why ?
Cameras in cabs : For what purpose ?
Closer time management : Why ?
Do you have any experience what so ever with blue light aviation Cabby ? At least add some explanation to your predictions, as none of them appear to make any sense. So please do tell us why.
I don't post often but I do note your negative tones in relation to "Plod"
Merry
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere !
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well they had to get the cash to buy the Fixed Wings from somewhere ...
I suspect the Savings made with these closures, and the revenue still being
top sliced from Forces as part of the Fleet replacement / upgrade program will cover that !
Isn't / wasn't that sum arrived at from calculations of the expected life of the original Fleet ?
With fewer bases & aircraft to maintain and replace,
will these costs now be passed on to the Forces, so that they DO end up paying less for Air Support,
as originally advertised, rather than actually paying more in some cases for a less effective service ?
Nail
I suspect the Savings made with these closures, and the revenue still being
top sliced from Forces as part of the Fleet replacement / upgrade program will cover that !
Isn't / wasn't that sum arrived at from calculations of the expected life of the original Fleet ?
With fewer bases & aircraft to maintain and replace,
will these costs now be passed on to the Forces, so that they DO end up paying less for Air Support,
as originally advertised, rather than actually paying more in some cases for a less effective service ?
Nail
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
when I worked at Boreham 15 years ago (before Suffolk ASU) we would venture into Suffolk and Norfolk rarely and on a payment per hour basis, the observers had no local knowledge, the forces had no concept of police aviation. Looks like we're about to turn the clock back even further, I say again (3 years after the last time I said it) losing the aircraft is bad enough, but closing the bases means no fuel options in many of those counties at night which means the far flung aircraft that remain will have to return to their own bases to refuel before accepting a job in one of those unsupported counties.
Might as well just close the lot rather than waste taxpayers cash on huge transit times to get fuel and arrive long after you're needed.
Might as well just close the lot rather than waste taxpayers cash on huge transit times to get fuel and arrive long after you're needed.
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Down south
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 'team' responsible are the current government. If it wasn't for ridiculous budget cuts to policing, we wouldn't have lost most of our horses /dogs /divers /Helicopters/ traffic officers... Still at least we now have Police Crime Commissioners... 